Range Anxiety, Ha! Cybertruck performing far above expectations and vs F-150 Raptor

[CyberFreak]

...Pretty sure that said 'reservation' and not 'order' and you very specifically had told someone to get their $100 back if they weren't going to order.


Nope, you totally said 'reservation space' and '$100'.


As you have written many times, and yet, so far, you still haven't explained how someone sitting on their reservation and not ordering slows anyone's truck.

The reservations that matter are the ones that order. Not the ones that don't.

Cancellations actually take up time as they have to send back the $100.

-Crissa

You misunderstood. Again.

There was no distinction made as to whether the cancelation of the reservation would affect the timing of another reservation or order…

as others are now pointing out, when reservations are cancelled, the reservations that were behind them get moved up…as such they become eligible to convert to orders sooner, thus enabling the delivery of the CyberTruck to be sooner as well…

I’ll repost my example since it apparently has not quite sunk in with you yet….


If I place a reservation TODAY, my expected delivery date would likely be well into 2025…According to your flawed logic, even if EVERY RESERVATION WERE CANCELLED except for mine, my CyberTruck would not be delivered any sooner…

but the fact is, anyone with at least half a brain could understand that the delivery of my CyberTruck in the above example would be pushed up as a direct result from Cancelled Reservations…

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[Crissa]

You misunderstood. Again.

There was no distinction made as to whether the cancelation of the reservation would affect the timing of another reservation or order…

as others are now pointing out, when reservations are cancelled, the reservations that were behind them get moved up…as such they become eligible to convert to orders sooner, thus ...

Look, you wrote what you wrote. If you didn't mean to write it, you didn't mean to write it. Retract it and edit your post.

Your truck is not delayed by someone sitting on their reservation.

-Crissa

 

[CyberFreak]

Look, you wrote what you wrote. If you didn't mean to write it, you didn't mean to write it. Retract it and edit your post.

Your truck is not delayed by someone sitting on their reservation.

-Crissa

You are easily confused.

I suggested that canceling a reservation could accelerate the delivery of someone else’s truck.

and I have subsequently detailed how that would happen.

and others are corroborating this simple concept.

here is the example disproving your flawed logic (again):


If I place a reservation TODAY, my expected delivery date would likely be well into 2025…According to your flawed logic, even if EVERY RESERVATION WERE CANCELLED except for mine, my CyberTruck would not be delivered any sooner…

but the fact is, anyone with at least half a brain could understand that the delivery of my CyberTruck in the above example would be pushed up as a direct result from Cancelled Reservations…

 

[Crissa]

You are easily confused.

I suggested that canceling a reservation could accelerate the delivery of someone else’s truck.

But it won't.

You still have yet to explain why someone sitting on their reservation slows orders.

I will not engage in your insults.

-Crissa

 

[CyberFreak]

But it won't.

You still have yet to explain why someone sitting on their reservation slows orders.

I will not engage in your insults.

-Crissa

Interpreting facts as insults is not my problem…

Getting back to your flawed logic, I already provided that answer—multiple times…

as others are now pointing out, when reservations are cancelled, the reservations that were behind them get moved up…as such they become eligible to convert to orders sooner, thus enabling the delivery of the CyberTruck to be sooner as well…

 

[Crissa]

Interpreting facts as insults is not my problem…

Uhh, hmm:

you may need more help than could be administered in this forum…??‍

Your desperation

forced you to resort to a strawman,

it is a character flaw and I suggest getting help to resolve it…

you cannot grasp such a simple concept (as detailed in my example above) is telling….??‍

do I really have to continually spoon feed you
...
half a brain

You are easily confused.

half a brain

I think is still relevant:

As I was thumbing back to find the start of this "war on words" I saw some really rude, unhelpful responses from you. If you want to back up your story, use facts, not insults.

Anyhow...

Getting back to your flawed logic, I already provided that answer—multiple times…

as others are now pointing out, when reservations are cancelled, the reservations that were behind them get moved up…as such they become eligible to convert to orders sooner, thus enabling the delivery of the CyberTruck to be sooner as well…

Again, that's neither what you wrote, nor an answer to my question.

Easy solution: either pay up for the range extender or get your $100 back and free up a reservation space for someone who actually would be happy to take your spot.

You still have yet to explain why someone sitting on their reservation slows orders.

-Crissa

 

[CyberFreak]

Uhh, hmm:





I think is still relevant:


Anyhow...


Again, that's neither what you wrote, nor an answer to my question.




-Crissa

Not seeing any issue with anything I wrote.

What I see as an issue is your lying by saying ”that's neither what you wrote” (even though you directly quoted me) and the fact that you cannot seem to grasp what is a simple concept to most…

Again you somehow believe that if everyone ahead of my reservation cancels their reservation, that somehow that would NOT result in my receiving my invitation to order any sooner….??‍

 

[Crissa]

Not seeing any issue with anything I wrote.

All the insults you used, that Woodrick pointed out.
That you still haven't, ever, tried to engage with what I wrote.

What I see as an issue is your lying by saying ”that's neither what you wrote” (even though you directly quoted me) and the fact that you cannot seem to grasp what is a simple concept to most…

Again you somehow believe that if everyone ahead of my reservation cancels their reservation, that somehow that would NOT result in my receiving my invitation to order any sooner….??‍

How does them not getting a truck, while having a reservation, slow your truck?

You still haven't explained that. You told them to step out of the reservation line, if they weren't ordering a truck.

They're not ordering a truck. Because their configuration isn't available. How does this affect you?

You said, since they weren't ordering, they had a choice of two actions:

But in fact, they have a third option: the option they are currently doing. Which is to sit on their reservation and wait for the configuration they want.

How does that third option, affect you?

I will not insult your reading comprehension or intelligence, unlike what you wrote to me.

-Crissa

 

[CyberFreak]

All the insults you used, that Woodrick pointed out.
That you still haven't, ever, tried to engage with what I wrote.


How does them not getting a truck, while having a reservation, slow your truck?

You still haven't explained that. You told them to step out of the reservation line, if they weren't ordering a truck.

They're not ordering a truck. Because their configuration isn't available. How does this affect you?

You said, since they weren't ordering, they had a choice of two actions:

But in fact, they have a third option: the option they are currently doing. Which is to sit on their reservation and wait for the configuration they want.

How does that third option, affect you?

I will not insult your reading comprehension or intelligence, unlike what you wrote to me.

-Crissa

Pointing out that you are not grasping a simple concept is insulting to you…??‍

meanwhile, I’ve already explained that reservations get invited to configure in batches… my reservation placed TODAY would not likely get invited to Configure until well into 2025…if everyone ahead of me canceled their Reservation, I would likely be invited to configure in the next batch….and the sooner I would receive my truck…

the above directly contradicts what you wrote:

Ehh, sitting on a reservation doesn't slow anyone from getting a truck.

-Crissa

 

[Crissa]

Pointing out that you are not grasping a simple concept is insulting to you…??‍

You are a very selective reader:

you may need more help than could be administered in this forum…??‍

Your desperation

forced you to resort to a strawman,

it is a character flaw and I suggest getting help to resolve it…

you cannot grasp such a simple concept (as detailed in my example above) is telling….??‍

do I really have to continually spoon feed you
...
half a brain

You are easily confused.

half a brain

That seems like an insult.

meanwhile, I’ve already explained that reservations get invited to configure in batches… my reservation placed TODAY would ....

How is this an answer about an existing reservation not configuring?

This is still true: Sitting on a reservation doesn't slow anyone from getting a truck.

-Crissa

 

[CyberFreak]

You are a very selective reader:




That seems like an insult.


How is this an answer about an existing reservation not configuring?

This is still true: Sitting on a reservation doesn't slow anyone from getting a truck.

-Crissa

Agree to disagree on your interpretation of “insult”…?

But please try to stay on track…facts don’t care about your opinions…

You asked again, how sitting on reservations could delay someone else in getting a truck…

I’ve explained this simple concept ad nauseam…

but since it apparently has not yet sunk in quite yet with you, I’m happy to simplify even further…

Not all reservations are invited to configure at one time…therefore there are what we refer to as “batches”…these batches are created periodically (aka not all at once)…therefore if you place your reservation today, you would likely not get invited to configure until well into 2025, and therefore not receive your CyberTruck until after that point….conversely, if everyone were to cancel their reservations TODAY, you would likely be invited to Configure your reservation in the next Batch—likely within the next few weeks….

This simple example proves that if reservation holders cancel instead of sitting on their reservation (awaiting invitation to configure) the reservation holders further down the list could get their truck sooner…

 

[Crissa]

Not all reservations are invited to configure at one time…therefore there are what we refer to as “batches”…these batches are created periodically (aka not all at once)…therefore if you place your reservation today, you would likely not get invited to configure until well into 2025, and therefore not receive your CyberTruck until after that point….conversely, if everyone were to cancel their reservations TODAY, you would likely be invited to Configure your reservation in the next Batch—likely within the next few weeks….

This simple example proves that if reservation holders cancel instead of sitting on their reservation (awaiting invitation to configure) the reservation holders further down the list could get their truck sooner…

That's alot of text to not answer the simple question:

How does someone sitting on their reservation, slow down anyone else's orders?

You keep repeating 'if everyone canceled' - well, if everyone canceled, you could order today, there'd be no reservations. ...But you'd still have to wait months to get your truck!

If no one on the reservation list configured an order... and instead just sat there... not a single truck delivery would be delayed. Because before the order list ran out, Tesla would invite more and more people to configure until they'd gone through the entire reservation list. There's no limit to the number of people they can invite to configure.

Any number of existing reservations, up to the total of reservations currently on the list, does not delay any trucks shipping.

So again, sitting on a reservation doesn't slow anyone from getting a truck.

-Crissa

 

[CyberTW]

That's alot of text to not answer the simple question:

How does someone sitting on their reservation, slow down anyone else's orders?

You keep repeating 'if everyone canceled' - well, if everyone canceled, you could order today, there'd be no reservations. ...But you'd still have to wait months to get your truck!

If no one on the reservation list configured an order... and instead just sat there... not a single truck delivery would be delayed. Because before the order list ran out, Tesla would invite more and more people to configure until they'd gone through the entire reservation list. There's no limit to the number of people they can invite to configure.

Any number of existing reservations, up to the total of reservations currently on the list, does not delay any trucks shipping.

So again, sitting on a reservation doesn't slow anyone from getting a truck.

-Crissa

The is quite the discussion! I must have your counterpart on ignore (probably for the frustrating reasons you are experiencing). I just had to ignore someone on here because he just wants to antagonize… this forum has gotten some interesting noobs of late (many are great though!)

 

[CyberFreak]

That's alot of text to not answer the simple question:

How does someone sitting on their reservation, slow down anyone else's orders?

You keep repeating 'if everyone canceled' - well, if everyone canceled, you could order today, there'd be no reservations. ...But you'd still have to wait months to get your truck!

If no one on the reservation list configured an order... and instead just sat there... not a single truck delivery would be delayed. Because before the order list ran out, Tesla would invite more and more people to configure until they'd gone through the entire reservation list. There's no limit to the number of people they can invite to configure.

Any number of existing reservations, up to the total of reservations currently on the list, does not delay any trucks shipping.

So again, sitting on a reservation doesn't slow anyone from getting a truck.

-Crissa

that’s a lot of text to say you still need my help to comprehend a simple concept….

noted!

Firstly, you are conflating “time to receive an order” with “time to receive a truck”…good chance that the distinction is lost on you…

…but that’s just the start…

… among the many flaws in your logic the biggest is that you assign no time value to the creation & submission of invitation batches to Reservation holders nor the time it takes for reservation holders to respond.

by canceling these reservations, this Time Value is reduced in the process as I’ve detailed ad nauseam…

and then you suggest that Tesla may invite all reservation holders simultaneously to configure—that is clearly not the case as many reservation holders are awaiting their turn to configure…

I’m hopeful that one day you will grasp this concept…but not holding my breath based on your failure to do so thus far…

 

[Crissa]

among the many flaws in your logic

(citation not included: 'list of many flaws in my logic')

...the biggest is that you assign no time value to the creation & submission of invitation batches to Reservation holders nor the time it takes for reservation holders to respond.

Do you think that a human types every email? They do a select, it spits out accounts, that list then sends out emails and unlocks the configurator.

This needs to be done no matter how many reservations there is. And there's already alot of them. It's already been done.

Additionally, this is basically work of a single person or small group (to make sure buttons are not pressed wrong).

And since the line of orders is a different queue entirely, this doesn't delay any trucks from being delivered. Web/email advertising services don't process orders or service vehicles, so they're completely unrelated to orders.

by canceling these reservations this Time Value is reduced in the process as I’ve detailed ad nauseam…

No, no it's not.

Emails still need to go out, the configurator still needs to be unlocked, and now you've added an additional email and money handling to the process. Each cancellation is more work, and work that's not eventually paid for with a deposit!

I’m hopefully that one day you will grasp this concept…but not holding my breath based on your failure to do so…

Grasp a concept? What concept?

Here's a list of concepts we're in disagreement on:

• There are two queues, reservations and orders.
• Reservations are almost entirely automated (except when cancellations occur), and are processed only as often as they need to keep the order list full.
• Orders continue to be filled whether or not there's any reservations at all. That's why they always have a wait time - because it's more efficient.
• Bonus: Web/Email services is a different skillset from sales and automobile service.

If you're going to make a list, make a list.

-Crissa

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