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But the navigation system has been going haywire since last week. It seems the GPS is unsure where the car is on the road and keeps routing with nonsensical suggestions. Does anyone have a similar problem?
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But the navigation system has been going haywire since last week. It seems the GPS is unsure where the car is on the road and keeps routing with nonsensical suggestions. Does anyone have a similar problem?
Same here that I have to use my iPhone for the navigation.

Sometimes it show the route as all clear but should have been solid red.
 

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But the navigation system has been going haywire since last week. It seems the GPS is unsure where the car is on the road and keeps routing with nonsensical suggestions. Does anyone have a similar problem?
The GPS actually doesn't know if it is on a road. GPS wanders a lot more than people think, somethings a mile from where it really is.
It's the post processing that "glues" the GPS to the road.

And yes, this post processing can get a little confused, especially if the car is placed in a location where it can't hear the satellites for an extended time.
It happens periodically anf just about always eventually fixes itself.
 

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Proof? Price is not listed for Foundation Series vehicles.
Well, since they don't break down the price of FSD, I used the price that Tesla charges for FSD for every other car they make. I made a calculated decision that since the price was the same no matter which Tesla vehicle you can buy, it would be the same for the Cybertruck, as it is also a Tesla vehicle. I could be wrong though. Tesla could decide to charge less for FSD for the Cybertruck only but, they probably won't.
 

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But the navigation system has been going haywire since last week. It seems the GPS is unsure where the car is on the road and keeps routing with nonsensical suggestions. Does anyone have a similar problem?
Yes, there is a work around for that!!! You need to disable sentry mode, close the truck, walk away for a minute and two, let it sleep. After that when you start to drive, it will snap back to your position. It worked for many of us:

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...now-thinks-i’m-2-miles-away.18901/post-342353
 

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No I am legitimately asking a question to you.. just because it has gone down now, to get adoption, doesn’t mean it will stay low. Have you listened to Elon at all. He has mentioned that Tesla is worth nothing as a car company without FSD (ie unsupervised robotaxi ability). Do you even understand how much money they are spending on FSD personnel not to mention compute and all the behind the scenes?? Seriously, that’s a legit question. You think they will just give it away for free or $10 (like a premium subscription)? They are gonna give away something that could make you money like a Uber without you being in the car… for less cheap, becausssse all things just get cheaper according to you?? if you think that, I have a whole island of treasure to sell you.. i am not trying to be argumentative, but I can’t believe you think they are gonna essentially give away FSD

Elon has literally said he doesn’t like FSD transfer because “we have to make money somehow”… but ya he will decrease it steeply as it goes unsupervised and a driver doesn’t have to pay attention
It will also go up for the reason that once it becomes Level 3 and higher autonomy, by law, the liability then falls on the manufacturer for insurance claims for any accidents deemed at fault of FSD. IMO, this alone will be the largest impact to the cost of FSD. Currently Level 2, requires driver attention and thus liability falls on the driver/owner of the vehicle and *not* the manufacturer.

For those that do not understand the above and are on the fence about purchasing FSD, you really should. Tesla likely is partially funding FSD development with early adopter funds (deep discounts). This will not continue forever (or possibly much longer). I would not be surprised (pure speculation) that Tesla will eventually take a overall cost hit for the early adopters when factoring in liability costs and is why they are reluctant to transfer the FSD licenses. Future FSD owners once L3 becomes a reality will have to be priced accordingly and part of that cost may be to offset early adopters liability costs. As the early adopters vehicles slowly reach their life span, perhaps FSD costs might lower a bit again less any inflationary costs.
 

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You mean add an annoying beep to the interior of the car?

I certainly hope not; those types of alarms are worse than useless... they actually break the concentration of driver. which of course is an unintended and oxymoronic consequence.
If we are talking about a caution beep on reversing, such as is common with box trucks and heavy machinery, arguing against that is a big mistake.

The Cybertruck cannot be reversed without using the cameras, and is essentially the same as driving and reversing a box truck.
 

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If we are talking about a caution beep on reversing, such as is common with box trucks and heavy machinery, arguing against that is a big mistake.

The Cybertruck cannot be reversed without using the cameras, and is essentially the same as driving and reversing a box truck.
Not the external pedestrian alert, those should remain. I'm talking about beeps and alerts that nag and distract the driver.
 


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It will also go up for the reason that once it becomes Level 3 and higher autonomy, by law, the liability then falls on the manufacturer for insurance claims for any accidents deemed at fault of FSD. IMO, this alone will be the largest impact to the cost of FSD. Currently Level 2, requires driver attention and thus liability falls on the driver/owner of the vehicle and *not* the manufacturer.

For those that do not understand the above and are on the fence about purchasing FSD, you really should. Tesla likely is partially funding FSD development with early adopter funds (deep discounts). This will not continue forever (or possibly much longer). I would not be surprised (pure speculation) that Tesla will eventually take a overall cost hit for the early adopters when factoring in liability costs and is why they are reluctant to transfer the FSD licenses. Future FSD owners once L3 becomes a reality will have to be priced accordingly and part of that cost may be to offset early adopters liability costs. As the early adopters vehicles slowly reach their life span, perhaps FSD costs might lower a bit again less any inflationary costs.
Yep! And let's not forget the massive amount of telemetry that Telsa will be able to present to a court or arbiter. To this day I still don't think I've seen a case where Autopilot or FSD was truly at fault for an avoidable collision/mishap.
 

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Well, since they don't break down the price of FSD, I used the price that Tesla charges for FSD for every other car they make. I made a calculated decision that since the price was the same no matter which Tesla vehicle you can buy, it would be the same for the Cybertruck, as it is also a Tesla vehicle. I could be wrong though. Tesla could decide to charge less for FSD for the Cybertruck only but, they probably won't.
And it just as easily could have been that they used the price at reservation.

But FSD in the Foundation Series has nothing to do with the price of FSD for anything else.
 

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Yep! And let's not forget the massive amount of telemetry that Telsa will be able to present to a court or arbiter. To this day I still don't think I've seen a case where Autopilot or FSD was truly at fault for an avoidable collision/mishap.
What else could that be if it's in autopilot.

Must be the phantom that crosses the street making them do a hard brake? Or thar ghost I see by my left side when no one is there. :p
 

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I can't wait for FSD on my CT. That's been the only hard thing for me - drive the Y with FSD or my new CT without FSD? So far, the Y has been parked lol.
I just drove from Orlando to Atlanta so I took my Model Y so I could use no hands autopilot. It went really well. They have really improved the highway driving. One annoying thing was the car reads the minimum speed signs in Georgia as the speed limit. So it would keep dropping to 40. Hopefully they fix that soon.

In Florida they put the minimum speed on a small sign below the speed limit so it stayed at 70. Georgia has them as separate signs.
 

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It will also go up for the reason that once it becomes Level 3 and higher autonomy, by law, the liability then falls on the manufacturer for insurance claims for any accidents deemed at fault of FSD.
What law is that? Level 3 requires a licensed driver to take over. Level 4-5 have distinctions regarding commercial vs private and who the operator is when driverless.
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