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This was made clear to all of us before anyone finalized any decision and we made a conscious, informed choice. Anyone could have, and many did, choosen to wait for the complete package out the door and/or lower price. Those who purchased freely choose to get early access vs waiting. Tesla didn't hide anything or put a gun to anyone's head. They didn't even hold a threat of losing place in line over anyone. I am happy they gave me that option. Even without FSD I'm loving the truck and would make the same decision over again, even knowing all I do now.
Totally agree. I did. And I love the thing. I don’t understand the shade. No one held a gun to the people who bought it knowing they didn’t have FSD yet
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Do you have yours yet? Most owners love driving the thing so much! You know Tesla is like that so why harp on it? Should they have waited till when 12.5 was ready to get the truck?? There have been roughly 25,000 trucks made and a S*** ton who love the truck as is and when it can drive its self, it will just be there
It is such a fun truck to drive in its own right! I wouldn’t use FSD to start anyways because it is so fun..
I was perfectly fine knowing I paid for something not quite ready.. because the more ready it is, the more it will costs.
Did your parents happen to give you one of the early elmo's?
 

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Oh man, I really need 12.5 for my upcoming Moab, UT road trip. Please, release it soon...together with Vision Park Assist, of course ?, ? ?
 

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Did your parents happen to give you one of the early elmo's?
Da f’ you talking about? I’m grew up lower class small town. Worked my butt off to earn be a valedictorian, got a scholarship to play sports at a D1 college. Worked for free as an intern to become a firefighter paramedic. Am away from my family over a 1/3 of the year. My team and I have literally saved multiple lives. I have been saving for 6 years for a truck that then became the Cybertruck. I have been smart (frugal with my money), I have no hobbies other than my kids, my wife and my lawn (and ensuring my home is operating). [I did just take up golf again]. When I had the chance to buy the truck, my wife and I agreed it to do it. We knew FSD wasn’t on it yet but would being understanding that it will come shortly. We knew what we were getting into……
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Da f’ you talking about? I’m grew up lower class small town. Worked my butt off to earn be a valedictorian, got a scholarship to play sports at a D1 college. Worked for free as an intern to become a firefighter paramedic. Am away from my family over a 1/3 of the year. My team and I have literally saved multiple lives. I have been saving for 6 years for a truck that then became the Cybertruck. I have been smart (frugal with my money), I have no hobbies other than my kids, my wife and my lawn (and ensuring my home is operating). [I did just take up golf again]. When I had the chance to buy the truck, my wife and I agreed it to do it. We knew FSD wasn’t on it yet but would being understanding that it will come shortly. We knew what we were getting into……
Anything else you want to be a dick about to people here?
I think you missed my point. Price decreases.
 


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I think you missed my point. Price decreases.
I obviously did. It came across as a privileged shot imho.. what about the price decreases? It is awesome so many people waited. The sales will get higher and higher… FSD won’t decrease though the more mature it gets.. if it gets unsupervised, it absolutely will not be $99/month. Will it happen in the 5 years? Don’t know. Don’t care
 

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I obviously did. It came across as a privileged shot imho.. what about the price decreases? It is awesome so many people waited. The sales will get higher and higher… FSD won’t decrease though the more mature it gets.. if it gets unsupervised, it absolutely will not be $99/month. Will it happen in the 5 years? Don’t know. Don’t care
What you just said...has all decreased just like Elmo did.
 

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Umm, I have a 2020 MYP that has been running FSD since version 10.2. Love it and can't wait to have it on the CT.
You've got the USS sensors. When they were removed it took time to get FSD back again.
 

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so with the most recent update my CT doesn't recognize the speed limit any longer showing 55MPH no matter where I am driving. Anyone else have this problem?
FSD has had a problem with 65 mph for quite a while now.
 

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I am not sure if I NEED it.... as I have never been in a FSD Tesla, however I certainly know that I WANT it :)
Got to be in a Model X plaid as a loaner 5 days after I got my cyber truck due to a sensor issue that put the truck in "Critial Issue" mode. It had FSD and not gonna lie, it's pretty cool. I'm sure the rear wheel steering and dimensions of the cyber truck were the reason it took some time to work out.
 


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What you just said...has all decreased just like Elmo did.
Well I will take the receipt of you saying FSD will be cheaper to add when unsupervised… at that point it is robotaxi and worth much more.. but you keep thinking that. Cheers and good night, Elmo. Your business sense is decreasing just like Elmo did, not to mention Elon has already said it will cost more..but you just think they will give away for free and not make money ??‍♂?
 

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Well I will take the receipt of you saying FSD will be cheaper to add when unsupervised… at that point it is robotaxi and worth much more.. but you keep thinking that. Cheers and good night, Elmo. Your business sense is decreasing just like Elmo did, not to mention Elon has already said it will cost more..but you just think they will give away for free and not make money ??‍♂?
Did the price of FSD to FSD (Supervised) not decrease or do I need to provide a receipt? Legitimate question here, do you believe that all Teslas will appreciate in value too?
 

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Did the price of FSD to FSD (Supervised) not decrease or do I need to provide a receipt? Legitimate question here, do you believe that all Teslas will appreciate in value too?
No I am legitimately asking a question to you.. just because it has gone down now, to get adoption, doesn’t mean it will stay low. Have you listened to Elon at all. He has mentioned that Tesla is worth nothing as a car company without FSD (ie unsupervised robotaxi ability). Do you even understand how much money they are spending on FSD personnel not to mention compute and all the behind the scenes?? Seriously, that’s a legit question. You think they will just give it away for free or $10 (like a premium subscription)? They are gonna give away something that could make you money like a Uber without you being in the car… for less cheap, becausssse all things just get cheaper according to you?? if you think that, I have a whole island of treasure to sell you.. i am not trying to be argumentative, but I can’t believe you think they are gonna essentially give away FSD

Elon has literally said he doesn’t like FSD transfer because “we have to make money somehow”… but ya he will decrease it steeply as it goes unsupervised and a driver doesn’t have to pay attention
 

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No I am legitimately asking a question to you.. just because it has gone down now, to get adoption, doesn’t mean it will stay low. Have you listened to Elon at all. He has mentioned that Tesla is worth nothing as a car company without FSD (ie unsupervised robotaxi ability). Do you even understand how much money they are spending on FSD personnel not to mention compute and all the behind the scenes?? Seriously, that’s a legit question. You think they will just give it away for free or $10 (like a premium subscription)? They are gonna give away something that could make you money like a Uber without you being in the car… for less cheap, becausssse all things just get cheaper according to you?? if you think that, I have a whole island of treasure to sell you.. i am not trying to be argumentative, but I can’t believe you think they are gonna essentially give away FSD
Do you think a "Billionaire" will give you Robotaxi? I don't think so. You just paid him to create it. What do you think autonomy in the factory is for? Robots don't speak, complain, and can work 24 hours. You think he will give you a share?
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