My Cybertruck rear ended a Silverado. No Collision Avoidance Assist

[Tecyber1]

There was another car in front changing lanes and stop in both lanes.

Yep, this is unfortunately all on you Mr. Cybertruck Driver. There no real damage to the CT at all

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[Tecyber1]

I did not see if you were using fsd, nevertheless you had almost 2 seconds to hit the brake. ???

There is no FSD for Cybertrucks yet, nor auto pilot.

 

[CyberZephyr]

That is strange, the CT probably just needs more data. There are 240 million + Tesla cars on the road, sending back training data to Tesla. Only <20k CTs on the road. Tesla just needs more collisions to know how to train the data. So we just need more people not paying attention, driving there CTs, and it'll get better.?

but wouldn't it also use the data from other teslas?

 

[Gaximus]

but wouldn't it also use the data from other teslas?

It could. but camera height and location would make the training data different, and weight and handling would also need to be adjusted with the new data. The machine learning could all be combined together at some point with enough data, Tesla is probably being overly cautious there. As they should be. And they can’t use traditional hardcoding of “hit brakes if within x amount of feet” because it doesn’t have radar to determine “x amount of feet” it’s “vision” has to be trained.

 

[Pops]

A more obvious question is why didn't you hit the brake when you saw the truck right in front of you stop?

And if you didn't see the truck stop, why were you following a truck so closely that you weren't paying attention to?

I believe the point of this thread is to understand what safety features the CT has in these situations and how they function. Obviously avoiding accidents manually is always the best option, but car makers develop these safety features for a reason. Humans are prone to distractions and mistakes, features like automatic emergency braking are they to help us in those times.

Given that FSD, or even lane centering are not yet enabled, its not clear to me which safety features are functioning at this time.

The manual lists Active Safety Features as:

• Lane Assist
• Collision Avoidance Assist
  • Forward Collision Warning - provides visual and audible warnings in situations when Cybertruck detects that there is a high risk of a frontal collision (see Forward Collision Warning).
  • Automatic Emergency Braking - automatically applies braking to reduce the impact of a collision (see Automatic Emergency Braking).
  • Obstacle-Aware Acceleration - reduces acceleration if Cybertruck detects an object in its immediate driving path (see Obstacle-Aware Acceleration).
• Speed Assist

None of those features activated... why? Understanding this would be extremely helpful.

 

[Pops]

I found some disclaimers in the manual about the safety features that might be applicable. But over all I think at least one of them should have activated, a warning or brakes.

Automatic Emergency Braking operates only when driving between approximately 3 mph (5 km/h) and 124 mph (200 km/h).

Limitations and Inaccuracies
Collision Avoidance features cannot always detect all objects, vehicles, bikes, or pedestrians, and you may experience unnecessary, inaccurate, invalid, or missed warnings for many reasons, particularly if:

• The road has sharp curves.
• Visibility is poor (due to heavy rain, snow, fog, etc.).
• Bright light (such as from oncoming headlights or direct sunlight) is interfering with the view of the camera(s).
• A camera is obstructed (dirty, covered, fogged over, covered by a sticker, etc.).

 

[2DVS4U]

Like I keep saying all these accidents are going to make the A-the insurance higher for of us and B-the FSD take longer to be available for the Cybertruck, I am not judging your accident but when you hit someone from behind it doesn't look good and usually means you are at fault no matter what/how you are driving, apparently you were changing lanes when the truck decided to stop quickly either because someone stopped in front of him or he freaked out about something/you, either way unfortunately you are at fault and as in all accidents there is someone that has to be responsible for the liability and unfortunately it will probably be the guy with the shiny new Tesla not the guy with the old Chevrolet pick-up, at least there were no injuries and hopefully everything will work out.

 

[MInnesooooooota]

Why did the Silverado stop in the middle of traffic? There was no one in front of him. I guess he wanted to see the Cyber Truck - and he got his wish.

Send video to your insurance company and they may determine Silverado is at fault.

 

[Michaelsully13]

The Silverado has more visible damage but the Cybertruck will probably cost a lot more to repair.

Start at the 50 second mark unless you enjoy watching 110 traffic.

Unfortunately no alert from the collision avoidance, neither audible nor emergency breaking. Maybe my speed was too low?

Did you make sure that it's turned on in the safety settings?

 

[Tecyber1]

This looks like an identical tactic that has been used by those perpetrating insurance scams in recent years. Driver obviously locked brakes with the intention of causing the accident. Whatever their motive, they likely didn't count on you having video footage showing they clearly caused it.

If your insurance company doesn't fight this for you, change insurance providers.

If the CHP doesn't find the Silverado at fault, it would mean you're in corrupt territory necessitating a need to relocate.

- ÆCIII

One might think that was blatant insurance fraud but go back and watch the video, that is NOT the case here. CT driver was NOT paying attention at all!

The car in front of the Silverado was changing lanes in standstill traffic so when they didn't make the full turn into the lane to the right, the Silverado has to stop, boom! CT driver hit the Silverado = CT driver at fault 100%!

 

[BlueLightning]

The Silverado has more visible damage but the Cybertruck will probably cost a lot more to repair.

Start at the 50 second mark unless you enjoy watching 110 traffic.

Unfortunately no alert from the collision avoidance, neither audible nor emergency breaking. Maybe my speed was too low?

More worried about that dumb A$$ motorcycle splitting the lane, CA isn't Afghanistan or Singapore and we have laws for that!

 

[Tecyber1]

Why did the Silverado stop in the middle of traffic? There was no one in front of him. I guess he wanted to see the Cyber Truck - and he got his wish.

Send video to your insurance company and they may determine Silverado is at fault.

Slow down, watch the video again. Now pay attention to the vehicle in front of the Silverado. Silverado had to stop as that car was unable to make the full turn into the right lane (back end was still in the Silverado's lane).

 

[SONNYDUT]

My Ct collision avoidance works and save me from rear ended twice. Looks like your not set.

 

[mongo]

Slow down, watch the video again. Now pay attention to the vehicle in front of the Silverado. Silverado had to stop as that car was unable to make the full turn into the right lane (back end was still in the Silverado's lane).

Yes, and the Silverado previously used their brakes at ~0:58, then off, then on 1-2 seconds before collision.
You can also see the roof of the blocking car through their windshield.

 

[DrPhyzx]

That truck in front of you had plenty of room to drive by the car in front of him that just changed lanes. His abrupt stop was unnecessary. I don’t feel you’re 100% at fault.

Ridiculous claim. You can't even see where the corner of that car is, and if the Silverado swerves left and causes an accident, it's on them. The Silverado driver did nothing wrong. The CT driver wasn't paying enough attention for conditions, and the CT automatic systems didn't bail him out for whatever reason. Period.

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