Sandy Munro Delta Wheels (Bulletproof Toughness) Launched for Cybertruck - $4000

[Cyberman]

"Sandy and Armin introduce their latest venture: Munro Delta Wheels! This new company creates wheels for Tesla vehicles that are lighter, stronger, and more aerodynamic than anything else on the (after)market."

Video summary by ChatGPT

Summary:

• The video introduces Delta Wheels, a new wheel brand designed by Sandy Munro and Arman Sharnowski, targeted for Tesla vehicles.
• Delta Wheels features:
  • A unique triangulated structure that makes the wheels lighter and more durable than other aftermarket wheels.
  • Weight reductions: about 10 lbs lighter than comparable wheels, with the signature wheel weighing 19 lbs, the lightest available for Tesla.
  • The Cybertruck model offers bulletproof capabilities and ruggedness, designed for off-roading with a fully closed design that prevents mud clogging.
  • Engineering Focus: Durability, fatigue resistance, and aerodynamic efficiency have been thoroughly tested and validated, including crash tests.
• Wheel Options and Pricing:
  • 22-inch wheels: $4,500 for a set of four.
  • 20-inch wheels: $4,000 for a set of four.
  • Signature 20-inch wheels: $3,800 for a set due to expected higher volume sales.

33 LBS
22x9 et 58.5

That looks great.

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[HaulingAss]

Unless tires are going to be bulletproof, I don’t understand the need for these wheels but maybe it’s just me.

That's so you can stand behind the wheel if you get in a street shootout.

Who wouldn't want that? ?‍

 

[HaulingAss]

They may be engineers but they need to learn how to market the wheels correctly. They should MSRP for:

-$4,399
-$3,999
-$3,799

Not ideal against curbs or off roading on rocky sections of the trail.

They do look like they are more subject to curbing than the OEM wheels. But it's hard to tell from pictures.

 

[Jack27]

Nope

 

[XCeilidhX]

I like the way these look, actually…

...and I am sure that at highway speeds they would probably increase range…

...and i bet they would make dealing with cleaning brake dust a lot easier…

…but speaking of brakes:

How about the effects of such a wheel on brake cooling? These simply cannot be good for that, right? Aluminum is a decent conductor of heat but the brake rotors make no immediate contact with this rim face and air would have to conduct the heat to the wheel to then conduct the heat away by evaporative cooling. If the only side the brakes are vented is the back side of the wheel, and there isn’t a corresponding aftermarket front bumper with ducting to direct airflow to the back side of the wheel, I would worry about the effect on the brakes and having them overheat and fail. Am I crazy for having this concern on a vehicle some have already said has somewhat underpowered brakes (debatable, of course)?

Interested in hearing everyone’s thoughts in this regard.

To me, the T-Sportline removable cover that is STILL vented for brakes makes much more sense than this. But maybe I’m just an idiot when it comes to knowing how brakes cool?

Somebody sk00L me.

Cheers

 

[Mini2nut]

If the Cybertruck were an ICE powered vehicle I would fully understand your thermal concerns with the brake rotors and pads.

With the excellent regenerative braking system on a Tesla you rarely need to touch the brake pedal. I love the one pedal driving on our Model Y.

 

[Mini2nut]

That valve stem looks tough to access.

Any preference on wheel design?

 

[rlhamil]

Aerodynamic...Maybe. Good looking...definitely not. People need to stop making their $100K plus truck look like crap with closed wheels. I was shocked at how ugly the aero wheels are on the Model 3, especially since just popping off the hubcap reveals as decent looking wheel. But I just assume most people buying the Model 3 don't know a lot about cars and vehicle Aesthetics . But if your buying a $60k+ vehicle you should know.

Wheel aesthetics? Some like a rugged look, some like something closer to a limo look, although admittedly carried too far, that's a poor match for a truck. As long as it's light and sturdy and doesn't get banged up too easily, aesthetics IMO come after that, esp, for an offroad-capable vehicle.

The ideal wheel aesthetic is in the flight mod of the DeLorean time machine, with the vehicle flying and wheels folded back.

 

[LexusCyber]

I think the design principles used are valid. Sandy, I would love to see more designs that are open not closed.... bullet proof is great but not what I want in a wheel... I do love: appealing stand out design for on road, lower weight, higher durability and lower price. try crowdsource the design patterns a bit and select a short list that can actually be built according to your solid principles : design+lower weight+durability +price competitive. assumptions: most of future CT owners are on road guys and gals ( and your wheel customers). they want to have cool looking wheels but appreciate the lower weight+durability +price competitive .. my 2 cents.....

also, love the pricing suggestion I saw above on the forum.. a bit of clever marketing never hurt anyone on increasing revenue from a great business idea! GOOD LUCK! I love your videos!

 

[HaulingAss]

I would worry about the effect on the brakes and having them overheat and fail. Am I crazy for having this concern on a vehicle some have already said has somewhat underpowered brakes (debatable, of course)?

Interested in hearing everyone’s thoughts in this regard.

My thoughts?

I'm confused why you think the Cybertruck brakes are underpowered. Are you thinking from the perspective of rallying the Cybertruck on a road race course? If so, all OEM brakes are woefully underpowered.

Or are you thinking they are underpowered for frisky use on public roads?

Here's how to cure yourself of that delusion:

Take your Cybertruck to a deserted straight road. Accelerate to 100 mph and immediately stand on the brake pedal as if your life depended upon it. When you come to a stop, floor it to 100 mph again, and repeat the threshold braking to 0 mph.

I've done the test and it's impressive. The second stop was slightly better than the first due to more favorable brake temperature the second time around. No, the brakes are not under-powered, yes, there is a concerted effort to take the shine off the Cybertuck and remove it from their consideration list. Weak brakes is just one of many lies.

 

[flyinglow]

No website yet so info not complete. Lighter wheels mean lower rotating inertia so better efficiency. 33 lbs for a 22" wheel is good but not exceptional. Off-road would want 18" if they fit. Sandy says they won't plug up but I don't think he does much off-roading. They will still plug up from the inside and you won't be able to hose them out. I can imagine crap getting stuck inside them and then having wheel balance issues.

 

[XCeilidhX]

My thoughts?

I'm confused why you think the Cybertruck brakes are underpowered. Are you thinking from the perspective of rallying the Cybertruck on a road race course? If so, all OEM brakes are woefully underpowered.

Or are you thinking they are underpowered for frisky use on public roads?

Here's how to cure yourself of that delusion:

Take your Cybertruck to a deserted straight road. Accelerate to 100 mph and immediately stand on the brake pedal as if your life depended upon it. When you come to a stop, floor it to 100 mph again, and repeat the threshold braking to 0 mph.

I've done the test and it's impressive. The second stop was slightly better than the first due to more favorable brake temperature the second time around. No, the brakes are not under-powered, yes, there is a concerted effort to take the shine off the Cybertuck and remove it from their consideration list. Weak brakes is just one of many lies.

Thanks for your take on things.

Much appreciated. I’d love to do this with my cybertruck but i haven’t activated my reservation to convert it to an order yet as i’m waiting out the FS so all I have to go on is reviews like yours.

I don’t trust the media much. The reason i said that was somewhere along the line a few people noted brakes on their “less impressed” list with their first impressions. I have none of my own to date. Your data points are duly noted.

Cheers

 

[XCeilidhX]

If the Cybertruck were an ICE powered vehicle I would fully understand your thermal concerns with the brake rotors and pads.

With the excellent regenerative braking system on a Tesla you rarely need to touch the brake pedal. I love the one pedal driving on our Model Y.

My use case scenario is different from many. Up and down steep winding mountain roads ehich I tend to drive as aggressively as safety, traffic, and road conditions allow. I’ve been “one pedal driving” my MS for nearly 12 years. But on the mountains i have need for my brakes on the regular. So repeated use of brakes is still in my “driving vocabulary” even with max regen. To me the brakes will absolutely matter.

I also find no shortage of individuals that fail to check before lane changes or to signal beforehand and in those scenarios regen isn’t gonna’ cut it.

Cheers

 

[XCeilidhX]

So to clarify, my question about people’s thoughts was not really an invitation to challenge why i would care about brakes and i’m not here to bash the CT… far from it.

My question is about brake venting with wheels like this. Let’s say its the middle of summer and you are hauling a trailer down the mountains from tahoe in heavy traffic and have to use the brakes over and over in summer heat as a result. Would wheels like this worry you?

That’s a more specififc way to ask my question. I really don’t need a lesson on Tesla one pedal driving. I’d be willing to bet I’ve been doing it since before most people on this forum had ever even heard of Tesla. So if we could stick to the point I would prefer that rather than questioning the validity of my question, and my question is about this wheel design relative to venting brakes.

I don’t really see a need to get huffy about it. Some people haul weight downhill. Some people drive faster than others, and not on straight flat roads. Some people drive where their fellow drivers aren’t so aware of the traffic around them. Brakes matter. These wheels seem like they could cause an issue with brakes to me but otherwise I quite like them. If people with some automotive design knowhow or greater knowledge of materials physics than I have actually have strong opions about this, I would like to hear them.

Thanks in advance.


Cheers

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