Nephilim
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I got the update yesterday!
Once it was installed, I went for 4 drives around a suburban area.
A few things I have noticed:
1. The GPS location of a store is not necessarily the correct place to park. It got really confused and drove around back of Home Depot, then drove down a side street, turned around, and drove back through a loading entrance of Home Depot again. I noticed that the screen had a note on it in very small text that we had reached the destination and I should take over, but it kept driving and gave no other indication.
2. Same problem again at a grocery store in a large plaza. It took an odd entrance, drove around back, down a side street, back to the same entrance, then almost seemed like it wanted to select a parking space. It positioned itself to back in to a spot, but then seemed to give up for no reason. I simply activated auto park, and we parked in the spot.
3. It cuts corners VERY BADLY at intersections. We got very close to some medians and I let it go. After about 3 different close calls, the left rear tire actually hit one, which left some nasty marks on my tire. I am now going to be taking manual control for all of these intersections where it seems to consistently get way to close to the medians. It does this very consistently in the same intersections.
4. It had three lanes to choose from to make a right turn into a plaza. Two driving lanes and a turn lane. I started in the right driving lane. A normal person would have simply moved right into the turn lane and then turned. The truck decided to move into the LEFT lane as it approached the right turn. It then cut accross every lane at the last minute to turn into the plaza on the right. It cut some cars off to do this. While the cuts were technically safe, they were too close, to the point where it made the other drivers uncomfortable as well. I got honked at, with good reason.
Some things it is doing very well:
1. It accelerates quickly! Every vehicle I have ever owned with any sort of self driving, auto cruise, whatever, seems to always need a punch of throttle to get off the line at the speed of real traffic. The truck did a great job with this.
2. It anticipates other cars and begins moving before the space is physically clear. This is what real humans do too, and it makes for a much more natural driving experience with less waiting.
If I were Tesla:
1. There are a many databases with GPS locations for addresses and points of interest. Tesla's works fine. But these cars need to park in a parking space. Not in the middle of the store. Tesla has a huge network of cars and a ton of data collection capability. I bet that in as little as a week, collecting data on where people actually park their Tesla when navigating to $Store, they could probably construct a parking database of nearly 100%% of stores in a populated area. This would be a very valuable asset. They could sell it. They could use it. They could solve this problem in no time.
2. Same idea but with speed. Collect data from EVERY TESLA on how fast people actually drive on every road when there is no traffic causing slow-downs. Build this into a speed database. If someone pulls over on the shoulder, remove this entry, they may have been pulled over. Now instead of a speed database with just posted speed limit signs, you have a database with known "speed of traffic" offsets, created by real people, specific to that area. This would be really great, as sometimes 25mph means NO MORE THAN 25mph and yes they will pull you over. Sometimes 25mph means no more than 35mph. The AI could know this if they built a database like I am describing. Speed profiles could then even be selected as a point on the curve in the database, rather than a number based on the posted limit. For example, "I would like to be driving as fast as 75% of drivers.".
I realize that this is early access and I am OK with it not being robotaxi ready yet. I have been using the report button as much as possible to try to provide helpful feedback. I look forward to the next update!
Once it was installed, I went for 4 drives around a suburban area.
A few things I have noticed:
1. The GPS location of a store is not necessarily the correct place to park. It got really confused and drove around back of Home Depot, then drove down a side street, turned around, and drove back through a loading entrance of Home Depot again. I noticed that the screen had a note on it in very small text that we had reached the destination and I should take over, but it kept driving and gave no other indication.
2. Same problem again at a grocery store in a large plaza. It took an odd entrance, drove around back, down a side street, back to the same entrance, then almost seemed like it wanted to select a parking space. It positioned itself to back in to a spot, but then seemed to give up for no reason. I simply activated auto park, and we parked in the spot.
3. It cuts corners VERY BADLY at intersections. We got very close to some medians and I let it go. After about 3 different close calls, the left rear tire actually hit one, which left some nasty marks on my tire. I am now going to be taking manual control for all of these intersections where it seems to consistently get way to close to the medians. It does this very consistently in the same intersections.
4. It had three lanes to choose from to make a right turn into a plaza. Two driving lanes and a turn lane. I started in the right driving lane. A normal person would have simply moved right into the turn lane and then turned. The truck decided to move into the LEFT lane as it approached the right turn. It then cut accross every lane at the last minute to turn into the plaza on the right. It cut some cars off to do this. While the cuts were technically safe, they were too close, to the point where it made the other drivers uncomfortable as well. I got honked at, with good reason.
Some things it is doing very well:
1. It accelerates quickly! Every vehicle I have ever owned with any sort of self driving, auto cruise, whatever, seems to always need a punch of throttle to get off the line at the speed of real traffic. The truck did a great job with this.
2. It anticipates other cars and begins moving before the space is physically clear. This is what real humans do too, and it makes for a much more natural driving experience with less waiting.
If I were Tesla:
1. There are a many databases with GPS locations for addresses and points of interest. Tesla's works fine. But these cars need to park in a parking space. Not in the middle of the store. Tesla has a huge network of cars and a ton of data collection capability. I bet that in as little as a week, collecting data on where people actually park their Tesla when navigating to $Store, they could probably construct a parking database of nearly 100%% of stores in a populated area. This would be a very valuable asset. They could sell it. They could use it. They could solve this problem in no time.
2. Same idea but with speed. Collect data from EVERY TESLA on how fast people actually drive on every road when there is no traffic causing slow-downs. Build this into a speed database. If someone pulls over on the shoulder, remove this entry, they may have been pulled over. Now instead of a speed database with just posted speed limit signs, you have a database with known "speed of traffic" offsets, created by real people, specific to that area. This would be really great, as sometimes 25mph means NO MORE THAN 25mph and yes they will pull you over. Sometimes 25mph means no more than 35mph. The AI could know this if they built a database like I am describing. Speed profiles could then even be selected as a point on the curve in the database, rather than a number based on the posted limit. For example, "I would like to be driving as fast as 75% of drivers.".
I realize that this is early access and I am OK with it not being robotaxi ready yet. I have been using the report button as much as possible to try to provide helpful feedback. I look forward to the next update!
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