FSD is not good enough for me. Sorry

[SCTesla]

Waymo isn't fully autonomous either - the remote operator just isn't sitting in the car and guides multiple cars - interacting only at the tricky spots. They are mostly autonomous - just like Tesla's FSD but I think we cannot say it is more autonomous since Waymo doesn't post on the forums every time a remote operator has to take over.

They don't drive remotely, they just give suggestions when stuck. There's a breakdown somewhere about it. They had to submit it to the California DMV.

Elon said Tesla would do something similar for RT.

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[ÆCIII]

Waymo is Way less than FSD. Tesla's magnitudes of Data advantage will continually prove this.

The End.

- ÆCIII

 

[jxmpd]

Waymo is Way less than FSD. Tesla's magnitudes of Data advantage will continually prove this.

When do you expect this will start to be "continually proven"?

Waymo meets SAE level 4 autonomy; FSD does not. So as of now, I don't think Tesla's data advantages are proving anything vs Waymo's use of LiDAR.

 

[ÆCIII]

When do you expect this will start to be "continually proven"?

The unlimited areas in which FSD is functional and viable that Waymo cannot operate - are already continually proving it.

Waymo is a geo-limited map dependent party trick for sheep to fall for.

- ÆCII

 

[jxmpd]

The unlimited areas in which FSD is functional and viable that Waymo cannot operate - are already continually proving it.

Waymo is a geo-limited map dependent party trick for sheep to fall for.

- ÆCII

It is not as plainly obvious as you suggest. The geofencing is counteracted by much safer autonomy, hence the SAE classification. A passenger doesn't have to look at the road or hold the wheel in a Waymo. In this context, FSD is not "viable" at all, by comparison. At least not yet.

It is not a party trick when it reliably and safely gets you around your city, as it does for me.

 

[65SoYoLO]

you should have made the title,
"FSD is not good enough for me. Sorry"

 

[PunkOuter]

Or "FSD is not good enough to make left turns in the CT". Because that was my experience as well as others here. I turned it on, drove straight for 5 blocks, and nearly crashed into the car sitting patiently at their stop sign as I turned left nearly into their car before having to take over. Almost clipped their front end off. Sure, a future update will fix the left turn issue. My 2018 Model 3 with FSD hasn't had this issue in well over a year, so I'm curious how it crept into this version for the CT. As it is, it's not worth turning on for city streets. I'm happily going to use it on the highway tomorrow though as it sounds fine for that.

 

[65SoYoLO]

Or "FSD is not good enough to make left turns in the CT". Because that was my experience as well as others here. I turned it on, drove straight for 5 blocks, and nearly crashed into the car sitting patiently at their stop sign as I turned left nearly into their car before having to take over. Almost clipped their front end off. Sure, a future update will fix the left turn issue. My 2018 Model 3 with FSD hasn't had this issue in well over a year, so I'm curious how it crept into this version for the CT. As it is, it's not worth turning on for city streets. I'm happily going to use it on the highway tomorrow though as it sounds fine for that.

I have not had any issues making left turns but right turns are VERY close to the curb. It also hugs the right side of the lanes.

 

[Spacenoddle]

I have not had any issues making left turns but right turns are VERY close to the curb. It also hugs the right side of the lanes.

I suspect the quite different experience owners encountered were due to the camera calibration difference. The only problem i ran into was direct running into blinding sun light, the FSD stop the vehicle and demanding " take the control immediately".

 

[no%X#XMVk65v#cq]

The level of defensiveness from some here is interesting. Hey, I respect your feedback and don't feel the need to get into it with you. You have the right to be angry at whatever you wish. I understand how much you want to defend Tesla and I think the CT is a great product in general. But every product has some issues. I'm just sharing my experience and I see others doing the same now that I have looked a bit deeper. I hope FSD improves quickly but the gap to actual full self-driving seems to be bigger than I and some others would have expected given the anticipation and the amount of years that have gone by now. I'm sure if you have used FSD for years, you probably have seen leaps of improvement but as a newcomer, it's surprising how much more there is to go. No shade is intended, just honesty.

Near as I can tell, this forum is comprised of thousands of watchers, and about 10-12 people that post on every thread (some of whom do not own a Cybertruck).

I am a first time Tesla owner, and was super stoked about FSD but agree that as neat as it is sometimes, it's basically like being a driver's ed teacher with a poor student. It's cruise control that might kill you. I honestly can't find a use case for it in its current state.

Chin up, OP. You are being unfairly attacked for pointing out the obvious here. Tech specs aside, it's a really weird user experience.

 

[Sjohnson20]

I look at FSD on Tesla as a peak at the future. I like using it and seeing how it advances. That's what it is.

Right now it's most useful on highway trips.

We will not be riding in the back seat of this generation of Cybertrucks while they drive us around. That will happen in the future and not with any of the cars on the market right now.

 

[Darthamerica]

I understand it's the best thing out there for the moment in terms of being close to autonomous but it certainly isn't good enough yet to drive itself without interventions in urban areas. If Robotaxis is the same as FSD 12.5.5, it would be highly risky I think. I love Tesla so I really want it to be good but it cuts corners too sharply and also misses things that it cannot classify such as plastic roadsigns that stick up in the middle of the street (it does see cones and other objects though). As an example of a dangerous scenario, mine made a turn and instead of going on the road, it went onto a local light rail track and followed that path instead which could be disastrous if one happened to have been oncoming.

I agree it’s definitely not good enough yet for a Robotaxi. However I think for an early release version it’s got a lot of potential assuming HW isn’t a limitation.

My main complaints are also aggressive turns, failure to see potholes/objects on the road, staying in the right lane too long on the FWY, and taking too long to get in the right lane prior to turns.

Having said that I’m still impressed and look forward to updates.

 

[Bumn]

Same here. Ran over the dividers twice. Hopefully FSD is learning it from the sensors.

I wonder if the issue is from the rear wheel steering, that makes it cut corners too sharp..??

 

[CTInProcess]

Waymo is worthless, sure there are no drivers in it but FSD drives like a dream. FSD is pretty much flawless. If it wasn’t for government intervention FSD would be fully autonomous. Wayne is a joke….

 

[Darthamerica]

Way I is worthless, sure there are no drivers in it but FSD drives like a dream. FSD is pretty much flawless. If it wasn’t for government intervention FSD would be fully autonomous. Wayne is a joke….

CT FSD isn’t flawless. It’s definitely not good enough to operate unsupervised.

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