FSD is not good enough for me. Sorry

[rlhamil]

You think humans do "mostly well enough" in terms of safety?

1.9 million auto fatalities in 2023 would argue otherwise. Do you understand what 1.9 million fatalities looks like? I fail to see how anyone thinks 1,900,000 deaths in only one year is acceptable. That's a bloodbath!

That's an argument in favor of automation, of course.

But "mostly well enough" means most drivers and passengers live their lives without dying because of a car accident. In the ideal, zero is the only acceptable number of deaths, but the ideal is not realistic.

And that number is worldwide; in the US it's more like 45,000 or so; about 1/5 of all deaths by accidents of various sorts. The US total is roughly comparable with firearms deaths...but more than half of those are suicides. You could look at it that driving drunk, drugged, exhausted, or distracted is a form of suicide by Russian roulette, albeit with the risk of taking others down too.

The problem is that while widespread adoption of automation merely better than the average driver would save lives, most people think that they are better than the average driver (which cannot be true for all that think so), and in any event would expect automation to be better than they are, at the level of an always alert expert driver.

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[NotMyTruck]

Is the autopilot functional? Say, compared to a model Y?

 

[Darthamerica]

...Zero citations on this misleading 'one thing' you were told.

-Crissa

Contrary to popular belief you can’t learn everything from the internet. I don’t need to write “citations.” Almost every Tesla owner in this thread knows what I’m talking about. The few who don’t will eventually learn through experience. It doesn’t mean we hate the company. But we do want better alignment between reality and marketing efforts.

 

[Darthamerica]

Is the autopilot functional? Say, compared to a model Y?

If you mean FSD Supervised, yes. I’d say it’s good. But it needs some improvements.

 

[NotMyTruck]

If you mean FSD Supervised, yes. I’d say it’s good. But it needs some improvements.

I meant - does the cybertruck auto steer with autopilot?

 

[CyberJay]

Basic things to understand:

1. Elon and Tesla have invested in, and continue to build the world’s most capable and formidable ai-focused infrastructure.
2. They are focused on resolving this self driving problem 100%
3. They have the world’s best engineers.
4. Machine learning has the capacity to learn at blinding speeds, and will continue to understand and navigate all these minor conditions. The Tesla machine learning infrastructure is mind blowingly capable.

ANYONE who thinks this “it’s not good enough” stuff is a longer term concern… is just plain ignorant.

Yes, it’s not good enough yet… but soon “YOUR DRIVING won’t be good enough.”

Enjoy things while they last..

 

[cbertgo]

I understand it's the best thing out there for the moment in terms of being close to autonomous but it certainly isn't good enough yet to drive itself without interventions in urban areas. If Robotaxis is the same as FSD 12.5.5, it would be highly risky I think. I love Tesla so I really want it to be good but it cuts corners too sharply and also misses things that it cannot classify such as plastic roadsigns that stick up in the middle of the street (it does see cones and other objects though). As an example of a dangerous scenario, mine made a turn and instead of going on the road, it went onto a local light rail track and followed that path instead which could be disastrous if one happened to have been oncoming.

Do you realize you are supposed to drive it with caution, be ready to take over and, most importantly for all of us, give immediate feedback on why you had to intervene. If you want perfection, turn FSD off and wait for us to help improve it so you don’t have to worry. I’m glad you’re using it, it helps all of us.

 

[gc2488]

FSD v13 is planned for this month. We'll see.

 

[Tecyber1]

Don't say sorry to us, we didn't create FSD nor make you buy it. However I am sure we are all terribly sorry you are unable to kick back to stare at your phone scrolling the Gram while it drives for you!

 

[CTMike]

I think the initial release of FSD is pretty good. It definitely needs some tweaking, as I am sure they are monitoring it. Some positives I like are, with my previous Tesla S, you had to keep your hand on the steering wheel during FSD, whereas you don't need to in the CT because of the cabin camera that watches your attention.

 

[CyberT1]

Since I received FSD It has been doing all sorts of Crazy things like even when FSD is not activated it set off an alarm saying you need to take control. When FSD is activated on narrow roads when on a bend it starts to brake heavy.

 

[SCTesla]

I meant - does the cybertruck auto steer with autopilot?

CT doesn't have Autopilot, just FSD.

 

[Cybertruck 1974]

I find the FSD an absolute brilliant tool of which in such a short time has improved so much. I love the way Tesla has integrated the safety features as in eye recognition alert making it so the driver can not just sleep, use phone and the distractive things people do that cause accidents and death daily. Yes, the tech is not ready for Autonomous and should not be Self Driving as in Taxis, cars, etc as the infrastructure is not ready and will not be ready for many years to come said US Dept of Transportation Director. But wow!! it gives the driver a little break though and that's all it should be for now. Now let's regulate speed on all vehicles.............Oh? they did?.....Yes my push for speeders to be shutdown at State Level passed?........ Yes!!! California put it into law. Let's go!!! I love tech, now let's blow up all vehicles who do circle jerk side shows with their cars!! Bwahahahahahah!!!

 

[Lasttoy]

Another hater on site. Wonder why they get on here?
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