For those with FSD, what/s your current state of collision/accident avoidance?

[MilliM]

Except for lane departure warnings where the car tells me to take control immediately, I have yet to notice any interventions by the car while I’m driving. At the same time I realize I haven’t had any near misses.

I’m curious about the following scenarios when I’m driving (not FSD being in control).

* If I’m backing into a parking space with a wall should it stop me before I hit it? Same question goes for pulling in head first.
* If a pedestrian steps in front should autobraking engage? Looks like it should work well on other models from safety tests I’ve seen.
* If I’m not paying attention and a car suddenly brakes in front for me will the car stop itself?

I don’t want to rely on any of these features, but would like to know if they are engaged yet.

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[TickTock]

It will not brake if you are pressing the accelerator. It will hollar at you but it will allow you to override any drivers assist intervention (as it should, nay, must). Same as lane keeping - it is just a gently nudge but you still control the car. It won't stop you from hitting something if you explicitly tell it to via steering or pedal input.

 

[MilliM]

So we don’t have Auto Emergency Braking engaged yet like the other models? It’s reflected in the manual, but I also thought/assumed it wasn’t active yet.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/...rgency Braking applies,or rear of the vehicle.

 

[Cybertruck2024]

I am not sure I want to have auto-brake on the truck just yet. I was driving a few days ago and I received the imminent collision warning. There was not a car anywhere near me, I looked at the screen and a car at least 15 feet to my right in a parking lot was colored red to show me it was a threat. The car was parked and no one was in it. I've had quite a few fake collision warnings, but this was by far the least accurate one.

 

[Woodrick]

Except for lane departure warnings where the car tells me to take control immediately, I have yet to notice any interventions by the car while I’m driving. At the same time I realize I haven’t had any near misses.

I’m curious about the following scenarios when I’m driving (not FSD being in control).

* If I’m backing into a parking space with a wall should it stop me before I hit it? Same question goes for pulling in head first.
* If a pedestrian steps in front should autobraking engage? Looks like it should work well on other models from safety tests I’ve seen.
* If I’m not paying attention and a car suddenly brakes in front for me will the car stop itself?

I don’t want to rely on any of these features, but would like to know if they are engaged yet.

Correct, it sees the wall and shouldn't hit it. But as all of FSD is, you must supervise, there are cases where it may not perform as expected.

If a pedestrian is in front while it is parking, it should stop.
If a pedestrian is in front while it is driving slow, it should stop.
If a pedestrian or animal darts out in front of you at, I think 30 mph or above, it probably won't stop. (This is needs of the one vs the needs of the many issue. If someone darts out in a time that it can't stop, then should the car injure the crossing person AND fire the airbags and injure occupants and rear-following vehicles)

If a car suddenly brakes, it definitely should attempt to stop. It will probably catch this before you do.

 

[GFleck]

It will not brake if you are pressing the accelerator. It will hollar at you but it will allow you to override any drivers assist intervention (as it should, nay, must). Same as lane keeping - it is just a gently nudge but you still control the car. It won't stop you from hitting something if you explicitly tell it to via steering or pedal input.

I obviously haven't tested this thoroughly, not sure how I even would lol, but a couple months ago I was in downtown Chicago making a left turn on green light and a guy stepped in front of me from left while I was checking / glancing right, I'm 90% certain I was on the accelerator, and the car stopped me from hitting the guy. Maybe there's some logic based on where you are and/or how fast you're going.

Would be great to have some definitive info on all this (yea, I should read the manual as it might all be there...). I suppose one could test with some soft-ish non anchored barriers for some scenarios. I actually think I remember seeing a youtube video where a couple was doing this on a road, throwing things in front of the truck that were person sized but wouldn't hurt the vehicle. If anyone has any links to videos like that would be cool to see?

 

[SCTesla]

So we don’t have Auto Emergency Braking engaged yet like the other models? It’s reflected in the manual, but I also thought/assumed it wasn’t active yet.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-8EA7EF10-7D27-42AC-A31A-96BCE5BC0A85.html#:~:text=When Automatic Emergency Braking applies,or rear of the vehicle.

All Teslas allow you to hit things if you want, the AEB is to mitigate crash severity and stop when there's a pedestrian, bike, motorcycle, or car. It's not created to prevent you from being bad at parking.

This is also from the manual:

Automatic Emergency Braking is designed to reduce the impact of frontal collisions only.

Automatic Emergency Braking is designed to reduce the impact of frontal and reverse collisions with limited functionality while in Reverse.

 

[TickTock]

I obviously haven't tested this thoroughly, not sure how I even would lol, but a couple months ago I was in downtown Chicago making a left turn on green light and a guy stepped in front of me from left while I was checking / glancing right, I'm 90% certain I was on the accelerator, and the car stopped me from hitting the guy. Maybe there's some logic based on where you are and/or how fast you're going.

Would be great to have some definitive info on all this (yea, I should read the manual as it might all be there...). I suppose one could test with some soft-ish non anchored barriers for some scenarios. I actually think I remember seeing a youtube video where a couple was doing this on a road, throwing things in front of the truck that were person sized but wouldn't hurt the vehicle. If anyone has any links to videos like that would be cool to see?

I think you are right that there is more to it than just touching the pedal. I know when dealing with phantom braking, I would goose it to override and sometimes it would brake again as soon as I let up a little (not fully releasing the accelerator). So maybe it watches for a change in the pedal to decide if it should act or not.

However, it will also give you a warning that auto braking is disabled if you keep your foot on the pedal for too long.

 

[Wonderful]

For parking, yes if a pedestrian is nearby it will brake. Even if the person is not in the path but walking towards the path.
Happened to me at the gym, I was flaunting the auto park to my wife while she drove her Porsche. So I had the windows down and jamming to music while it auto parked and another guy walked nearby to see this and the truck kept stopping because of him. We all had a good laugh.

 

[MilliM]

All Teslas allow you to hit things if you want, the AEB is to mitigate crash severity and stop when there's a pedestrian, bike, motorcycle, or car. It's not created to prevent you from being bad at parking.

This is also from the manual:

Automatic Emergency Braking is designed to reduce the impact of frontal collisions only.

Automatic Emergency Braking is designed to reduce the impact of frontal and reverse collisions with limited functionality while in Reverse.

The parking lot question is more of a nice to know. I agree it shouldn’t be necessary, but even $20kish cars have this type of system in place. My 2015 Volvo was overly aggressive, but did a great job of preventing bumps.

As for your other comment, I think we all agree the goal of the system should of course be to avoid hitting pedestrians/cyclists/cars, but I realize they can’t represent or promise it will. I’d just appreciate some clarity in terms of how aggressive or “present” the system should be expected to be.


Edit; Would love to see a test similar to this for normal driving (relying on AEB) and FSD situations.

 

[DaBagBoy]

So we don’t have Auto Emergency Braking engaged yet like the other models? It’s reflected in the manual, but I also thought/assumed it wasn’t active yet.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-8EA7EF10-7D27-42AC-A31A-96BCE5BC0A85.html#:~:text=When Automatic Emergency Braking applies,or rear of the vehicle.

There is also now an option to set Automatic Acceleration control, that should overide "unintentional accelerations" (i.e. you floor it into your garage door or a pedestrian)....I will let you test it IRL - I might look for a white sheet to run it into....

 

[Woodrick]

I obviously haven't tested this thoroughly, not sure how I even would lol, but a couple months ago I was in downtown Chicago making a left turn on green light and a guy stepped in front of me from left while I was checking / glancing right, I'm 90% certain I was on the accelerator, and the car stopped me from hitting the guy. Maybe there's some logic based on where you are and/or how fast you're going.

Would be great to have some definitive info on all this (yea, I should read the manual as it might all be there...). I suppose one could test with some soft-ish non anchored barriers for some scenarios. I actually think I remember seeing a youtube video where a couple was doing this on a road, throwing things in front of the truck that were person sized but wouldn't hurt the vehicle. If anyone has any links to videos like that would be cool to see?

There's a difference between FSD braking and Automatic Emergency Braking.
This thread at least started as FSD braking.

 

[MilliM]

There's a difference between FSD braking and Automatic Emergency Braking.
This thread at least started as FSD braking.

My question was whether AEB was different/engaged now that FSD is out (for many of us.) For whatever reason I haven’t been of the understanding or belief that AEB was implemented in a way that it could be *relied upon* in the same way one can in the SEXY lineup. And I don’t mean *relied upon* as throwing caution to the wind, but rather expecting it to work as designed.

 

[SCTesla]

My question was whether AEB was different/engaged now that FSD is out (for many of us.) For whatever reason I haven’t been of the understanding or belief that AEB was implemented in a way that it could be *relied upon* in the same way one can in the SEXY lineup. And I don’t mean *relied upon* as throwing caution to the wind, but rather expecting it to work as designed.

Why did you think AEB was different than the SEXY fleet in the CT? It was delivered with AEB.

 

[MilliM]

Why did you think AEB was different than the SEXY fleet in the CT? It was delivered with AEB.

Probably a hodgepodge of posts that I’ve seen and assumptions I’ve made. That’s why I’m here asking the question. Sounds like it’s been active all along and I’m just such a stellar driver that it has yet to activate.

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