Tragic Cybertruck Accident in SF Bay Area Kills 3, Injures 1

[Deleted member 17810]

I wonder if a release mechanism should be part safety mechanisms for windows. So that they "drop" out of the way after a crash.

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[Stuck4ger]

CT Escape Tool
Window Hammer Seatbelt Cutter Tool
Tesla should test tools that can break out CT window and maybe provide one inside the cabin on all CT. CT optional accessories w air cartridges window hammer.
Maybe
Explosive charge inside a window hammer
or
Air cartridge tool like paint guns inside a window hammer
or
EM rail gun tool inside a window hammer
Now
Any of the above will work with a small point hard sharp projectile

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[tripzero]

I wonder if the 48V battery was the source of the fire. Reports say it wasn't the "EV battery", but a front impact could make the 48V battery angry.

 

[Crissa]

You can't get through the window unless you actually make a large hole in the internal plastic sheet with a saw or cutter.

...Or push it out of the way. Don't bother cutting it. Once it's broken, it's not solid anymore.

Here's a video showing the level of effort that firefighters, working from outside, needed to get to that point. Would be harder from the inside.

They're specifically doing it wrong.

-Crissa

 

[M0unt41nm4n]

I’m going to guess quickly! while they were still in shock passed out or hurt badly I
Don’t care laminated or made of steel I’m kicking that window open if I can’t get out.

Yep... actually they buckle/fold when pushed out.

 

[DJAlan2000]

They were burned alive. I've said it before, all windows being laminated is a bad idea. Its not just a CT thing, other vehicles are starting to do it too.

Here you can see the CT is against a wall, and the passenger doors are heavily damaged, I assume they couldnt open. The windows offer no escape unless they were already opened.

Well, you can always quit driving/riding in cars! Then you won't get 'trapped' in them and they won't 'flip over' or catch on fire or anything else...

 

[DJAlan2000]

This is really tragic. I tend to think I would rather have laminated windows to prevent smash and grabs, but that only holds true if this doesn’t happen to me. Would the passengers even been able to escape with normal windows?

A better solution is for battery companies to speed up adoption of battery separator technology that prevents Li-ion fires. My friend started Soteria Battery Innovation Group which already has 120 major company’s licensing technology that prevents fires in batteries even if you drive nails through them. The problem is that these companies will likely do 10 years of testing before they mass produce it because you can’t afford issues at very high volume.

it will be a great day when cars don’t have anything that can easily catch fire.

Apparently the driver was going at a high rate of speed and lost control, hitting several trees and the wall several times which pretty much ripped the truck into pieces... One of the wheels with control arm, etc. was found about 100 feet away (from the report I heard on radio)...

Here's another pic of the front end on the tow truck - I am surprised ANYONE made it out alive with as much damage as it had - Teenagers out driving at 3am, speeding on a winding road - if this was a gas powered truck, well, probably all of them dead anyway - sad... really sad...:

 

[DJAlan2000]

Standard window-breaking tools (ResQme, LifeHammer, etc) will work on tempered glass, but not on laminated glass. The ResQme and LifeHammer websites explicitly acknowledge this limitation.

Laminated glass used to only be used on windshields, but it is now often found on side and rear windows, particularly on more expensive vehicles (including the Cybertruck). Laminated glass doesn't shatter, even if it is completely punctured. You need to puncture it, then insert a saw in the hole and cut out a large hole with the saw. There are manual saws that can cut laminated glass, but they take some time to use. I asked a firefighter about this, and the only tool that he could suggest for fast exit through laminated glass was a battery-powered Sawzall with a laminated glass blade.

Actually, they are laminated on the OUTSIDE only, so your rescue hammer WILL break the glass from the inside...BUT it will still be 'held together' by the lamination on the outside... HOWEVER, that can be pushed out pretty easily after it's broken... You don't need to 'saw' anything... It will just 'fold outwards' because there isn't anything keeping it together except the lamination... Nothing on the top or rear side of the window is holding it in place, just rubber stripping, open your door, and look for yourself... So it's just a 'break it up' and fold it outward...

Rescuers have learned to break it, punch a whole through and PULL it outward...

 

[Derektsla]

Apparently the driver was going at a high rate of speed and lost control, hitting several trees and the wall several times which pretty much ripped the truck into pieces... One of the wheels with control arm, etc. was found about 100 feet away (from the report I heard on radio)...

Here's another pic of the front end on the tow truck - I am surprised ANYONE made it out alive with as much damage as it had - Teenagers out driving at 3am, speeding on a winding road - if this was a gas powered truck, well, probably all of them dead anyway - sad... really sad...:

Wow! That’s a bad wreck.

 

[DJAlan2000]

...Or push it out of the way. Don't bother cutting it. Once it's broken, it's not solid anymore.



They're specifically doing it wrong.

-Crissa

Exactly!
The fireman should have used the 'pointy side' of the axe to break it, then make a hole in it and then PULL it out... That is SOP for laminated windows on ANY vehicle...

Oh, and here's a page from Tesla specifically for first responders (for the CT):
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://digitalassets.tesla.com/tesla-contents/image/upload/Cybertruck-Rescue-Sheet.pdf

 

[BengalBoy]

First of all, it is a common issue with any fast vehicle and teenagers after leaving a party at 3:00 a.m. On the bright side, they didn't kill any innocent drivers on the road. (that is the way the story usually ends)

Secondly, it is very easy to break in to a CyberTruck's windows. There is a video tutorial on how to do it by a couple of theives in Atlanta posted on this very forum a few months ago.

This forum is filing with trolls, sensationalists, and haters. To bad the kids were killed. Parents shouldn't let their kids go party in a CyberTruck at 3:00 a.m. in the morning. We had a Tesla Model 3 involved in a double fatality here In Tuscaloosa after leaving a 2:00 a.m. party with a teenage girl at the wheel. You want to blame someone blame the parents for allowing it. Don't blame the CyberTruck window design. Don't blame Tesla. Physics is the real villan here.

 

[REM]

Public Service Announcement:

Heavy truck no turn good at 100 mph. truck is truck. not rally car.

 

[SlegMD]

Based on pictures that CT was not used under standard condition….

 

[Nolacyber]

Well, you can always quit driving/riding in cars! Then you won't get 'trapped' in them and they won't 'flip over' or catch on fire or anything else...

Or you can use FSD and it’ll generally keep
You out of trouble. Don’t think you could drag race using FSD.

 

[Sjohnson20]

Reckless driving. They could have hurt an innocent person.

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