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  1. canyoncarver

    Cybertruck lease rates now available for U.S. ($0 down / $7,500 down) -- [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

    With current interest rates what makes the most sense is to pay cash for the vehicle you can afford... and it makes even MORE financial sense to buy a vehicle that is 2-3 years old where another person has taken the massive depreciation hit and you get a nearly new vehicle at a huge discount...
  2. canyoncarver

    Cybertruck lease rates now available for U.S. ($0 down / $7,500 down) -- [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

    Yes, I am a millionaire multiple times over who could write a check for a CT but I'm the mark because I might choose to make monthly payments to drive a newer model car every few years (I own four cars one of which is six years old and one of which is 13 years old) and not have to worry about...
  3. canyoncarver

    Cybertruck lease rates now available for U.S. ($0 down / $7,500 down) -- [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

    That is absurd. I have turned in many lease vehicles that had the same or better residual value than they would have had if I had sold them at the same point in time. Other things leasing does is let you walk away from a car if you really aren't in love with it or it has minor annoying issues...
  4. canyoncarver

    Cybertruck lease rates now available for U.S. ($0 down / $7,500 down) -- [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

    I don't know whether or not the CT qualifies for the $7500 tax credit for consumer purchase but it definitely applies for commercial purchase by way of a lease.
  5. canyoncarver

    Cybertruck lease rates now available for U.S. ($0 down / $7,500 down) -- [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

    Because I make too much money to qualify for the tax credit but that doesn't matter with a lease.
  6. canyoncarver

    Cybertruck lease rates now available for U.S. ($0 down / $7,500 down) -- [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

    Leases usually carry higher interest rates than traditional auto loans. In this case, the lender is going to take the tax credit (they are purchasing the vehicle as a commercial purchase where it qualifies regardless of end user's other qualifications) and then they are going to gouge the...
  7. canyoncarver

    Cybertruck lease rates now available for U.S. ($0 down / $7,500 down) -- [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

    They showed me the financial calculator for doing lease on CT which was just released this morning. It showed $7500 tax credit applied and another $7500 of cap reduction (this would be the down payment) and a payment of $999 a month. Assuming a ~55% residual that means 29,600 of cap cost...
  8. canyoncarver

    Cybertruck lease rates now available for U.S. ($0 down / $7,500 down) -- [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

    Little more information after my test drive and brief discussion today on the leasing details; There is a $7500 tax credit built into the lease, however the prices shown with the $7500 down payment ($999 a month) already take this into the account. So it is effectively $15,000 of cap...
  9. canyoncarver

    Cybertruck lease rates now available for U.S. ($0 down / $7,500 down) -- [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

    I'm going to do another test drive today and see if any details on tax credit for leasees is available yet. If I can get the $7500 tax credit as cap reduction, even if the interest is higher it's a no brainer for me... I'll just do cap reduction with my Model Y value and my lease payments would...
  10. canyoncarver

    Cybertruck lease rates now available for U.S. ($0 down / $7,500 down) -- [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

    Legitimate concern but as I only drive 5,000-7,500 miles a year not a concern for me personally.
  11. canyoncarver

    Cybertruck lease rates now available for U.S. ($0 down / $7,500 down) -- [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

    It's still a great deal if you wouldn't otherwise qualify for the tax credit. While quite a few people use leasing as a method of driving a more expensive vehicle than they could otherwise afford, there are also those who could pay cash for the vehicle but choose leasing for the financial...
  12. canyoncarver

    Cybertruck lease rates now available for U.S. ($0 down / $7,500 down) -- [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

    That's a good point I had not considered. I do not qualify for the normal $7500 tax credit.... is Tesla doing the $7500 commercial credit in the lease terms that would bypass the normal income cap for the tax credit?
  13. canyoncarver

    Cybertruck lease rates now available for U.S. ($0 down / $7,500 down) -- [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

    Final point is that $1249 is not "pricy" to someone who was going to do traditional financing on the CT with little money down... which sadly is how MOST people finance automobiles, even expensive ones. On a five year loan at 5.9% interest the CT is $1349 a month IF you pay all taxes out of...
  14. canyoncarver

    Cybertruck lease rates now available for U.S. ($0 down / $7,500 down) -- [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

    You are paying 45% of the cost of the truck to drive it for three years. You are protected against future versions of the product or future price cuts reducing that resale value. I bought my Model Y two years ago and Tesla immediately and drastically reduced resale price and tanked the used...
  15. canyoncarver

    🛑 Foundation Series Cybertruck OFFICIALLY ENDS in the U.S.

    The price absolutely has to come down and I think that it will, but Tesla has become expert at extracting the max price for their products from the market. Next likely thing for CT is going to be 0% APR loans sometime in maybe Q1 of 2025, then I think the next likely thing they will do is a...
  16. canyoncarver

    🛑 Foundation Series Cybertruck OFFICIALLY ENDS in the U.S.

    Based on the experience with my Model 3, I'm going to wait until they build more like 150K trucks before I order one. Tesla tends to iron out a LOT of issues in the first 1.5 years of production and does a lot of part revisions in that time frame as well.
  17. canyoncarver

    NON-Foundation Series Cybertruck Now Available to Order (Price: $79,900) !!

    Honestly I was trying to figure out how anyone buying one of the foundation edition qualifies for the tax credit. My wife and I don't.
  18. canyoncarver

    NON-Foundation Series Cybertruck Now Available to Order (Price: $79,900) !!

    Assuming the $7500 tax credit eventually applies is the gross income cap still $300K for couples?
  19. canyoncarver

    2025 Non-FS Cybertruck MSRP prediction

    I'm amazed that anyone who fits under the income cap for the tax credit feels that they can afford the CT.





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