100% Charged for 150 mi?? (UPDATED)

[nico007]

Same here, I have had Tesla’s for 9 years. I never look at the miles, never bother to calculate the degradation either.
I only use percentage and the nav predictions (which have become incredibly accurate).

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[Startreknerd]

This is a religious conversation I feel. Personally I have never looked at the miles left on any of my ride. Fuel gauge when ICE, % when EV.

You're an EV noob. It's ok. Just look at miles.

So you're a city driver and never drive long distance, got it.

 

[igs]

Long term, % is meaningless since capacity drops.
Short term, % is meaningless because of inconsistent topography.

Always look at miles.

That's exactly what makes miles meaningless. % has no dependency on capacity or topography while miles does.

 

[AlmostHuman]

Same here, I have had Tesla’s for 9 years. I never look at the miles, never bother to calculate the degradation either.
I only use percentage and the nav predictions (which have become incredibly accurate).

Right just put the destination in and the software will do the work, don’t overthink it. I look at the battery degradation / battery health (TeslaMate) just for nerd stats and my own curiosity.

 

[AlmostHuman]

You're an EV noob. It's ok. Just look at miles.

Hahahhahaha nope.

 

[Startreknerd]

That's exactly what makes miles meaningless. % has no dependency on capacity or topography while miles does.

No % is meaningless.

If you have 100% and you drive 50% can you get home by reversing your route? If your trip away was a majority down grade, Nope.

If you had previously reached your destination with 50% on a flat grade, and came home just fine, but it's now 30° warmer, can you get home? Nope.

If your previously round trip always rendered sufficient when new. But your car is now 6 years old with 140k miles. Can you get home just by using that same %? Nope.

Look at miles and the car can tell you your range even adjust for topography. Tesla does that.

 

[Startreknerd]

Hahahhahaha nope.

% is meaningless.

If you have 100% and you drive 50% can you get home by reversing your route? If your trip away was a majority down grade, Nope.

If you had previously reached your destination with 50% on a flat grade, and came home just fine, but it's now 30° warmer, can you get home? Nope.

If your previously round trip always rendered sufficient when new. But your car is now 6 years old with 140k miles. Can you get home just by using that same %? Nope.

Look at miles and the car can tell you your range even adjust for topography. Tesla does that.

 

[Crissa]

% is meaningless.

Right just put the destination in and the software will do the work, don’t overthink it. I look at the battery degradation / battery health (TeslaMate) just for nerd stats and my own curiosity.

Destination ≠ miles capacity.

These are different displays. One is route, the other is EPA.

This thread is about the EPA display, not destination.

% controls when you should charge. If you drive the same route, you'll end up knowing how much percent each route can take.

-Crissa

 

[AlmostHuman]

This is all a religious conversation. Use what works for you. Personally I will just let the software do the math and tell me when I need to charge while leaving all my displays set to %. If that doesn't work for you, cool deal, use miles.

@Startreknerd - You have no idea what my background is or what knowledge I have. That is what I was laughing at.

 

[Startreknerd]

This is all a religious conversation. Use what works for you. Personally I will just let the software do the math and tell me when I need to charge while leaving all my displays set to %. If that doesn't work for you, cool deal, use miles.

@Startreknerd - You have no idea what my background is or what knowledge I have. That is what I was laughing at.

?‍?‍?‍ You probably shouldn't be advising people anything.

 

[Startreknerd]

Destination ≠ miles capacity.

These are different displays. One is route, the other is EPA.

This thread is about the EPA display, not destination.

% controls when you should charge. If you drive the same route, you'll end up knowing how much percent each route can take.

-Crissa

?‍ That's highly specific and only true if you take the same route all of the time. And it changes over time because of loss of capacity, and seasonal changes and topography are all calculated by Tesla. So go by miles.

 

[AlmostHuman]

?‍?‍?‍ You probably shouldn't be advising people anything.

Ah good point. Thanks for helping me realize this.

 

[Startreknerd]

This is all a religious conversation. Use what works for you. Personally I will just let the software do the math and tell me when I need to charge while leaving all my displays set to %. If that doesn't work for you, cool deal, use miles.

@Startreknerd - You have no idea what my background is or what knowledge I have. That is what I was laughing at.

Why do you keep mentioning religious? What does that even mean? Lol

 

[eswimm]

This is a religious conversation I feel. Personally I have never looked at the miles left on any of my ride. Fuel gauge when ICE, % when EV.

I've never understood why it has to be one or the other. They both require math; either you are estimating your miles per percent (which the nav does anyway) or you are estimating your typical efficiency (e.g. you get 90% of rated on average). Personally, I prefer miles over percentage because it gives 2 pieces of information; state of charge and degradation. Percentage only gives one metric, SoC. My iPhone shows me the battery percentage, but details in the settings shows me the battery degradation. With the Tesla, you have to rely on your own (or an app's) calculation to estimate degradation. It doesn't really matter which you use on a day to day basis, but periodically estimating degradation from the rated range is quite useful.

 

[AlmostHuman]

Why do you keep mentioning religious? What does that even mean? Lol

We are both showing our age. Simply means there are many schools of thought on a topic and getting in to a deep conversation about it may not be fruitful.

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