⛰ Upgraded for Off-Road Performance! Cybertruck gets CTX Steel Bumper, Winch, LED Off-Road Light Pod - T Sportline

[T Sportline]

Check it out, this is a common setup we're building these days -

• CTX extreme duty steel bumper
• 10k winch
• LED pod lights
• Light bar

Off-Road ready!

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[mcm4ss]

I LOVE mine. really sets my truck apart from others. Looking forward to the brush guard when you have it ready.

 

[T Sportline]

I LOVE mine. really sets my truck apart from others. Looking forward to the brush guard when you have it ready.

Awesome!

 

[REM]

ugh. when are we going to see companies commit to 48v accessories.

I'm going to pass on every single upgrade item that's 12v. no exceptions.

 

[T Sportline]

ugh. when are we going to see companies commit to v48 accessories.

I'm going to pass on every single upgrade item that's v12. no exceptions.

We have made LED lights in 48v, got them in stock - we were the first aftermarket company with a legit 48v circuit board level powered LED light bar for cybertruck.

The winch is a different animal - we don't make winches, we're offering market leading winches from the top brands. It's a major to-do for them to move on something like this; if/when mainstream truck makers get to 48v, it will come - but that's not any time soon.

 

[BrockN]

We have made LED lights in 48v, got them in stock - we were the first aftermarket company with a legit 48v circuit board level powered LED light bar for cybertruck.

The winch is a different animal - we don't make winches, we're offering market leading winches from the top brands. It's a major to-do for them to move on something like this; if/when mainstream truck makers get to 48v, it will come - but that's not any time soon.

I don't see a way to run a winch directly from the 48 V circuits... they can't provide the current necessary for a serious winch. There will need to be something intermediate, either a big 12 V battery or perhaps someday, a 48 V battery bank, able to surge the amps a winch requires. Those batteries will need to be charged from the 48 V accessory circuit. I don't think the little 48 V battery in the truck used to keep the accessories live will do the job for anything demanding significant amperage.

 

[T Sportline]

I don't see a way to run a winch directly from the 48 V circuits... they can't provide the current necessary for a serious winch. There will need to be something intermediate, either a big 12 V battery or perhaps someday, a 48 V battery bank, able to surge the amps a winch requires. Those batteries will need to be charged from the 48 V accessory circuit. I don't think the little 48 V battery in the truck used to keep the accessories live will do the job for anything demanding significant amperage.

This is correct; the factory 48v accessory feeds can't handle spike loads either, nor can they manage the winch wattage. Tesla uses a DC-to-DC converter for the 48v accessory feeds, they do not come from the small on board 48v battery - you really can't use the small 48v on board battery for anything; the on board diagnostics will freak if the small 48v battery sees any loads beyond what Tesla expects.

We have spent extensive time and effort to properly develop an auxiliary power management system that works perfect, powers the winch and all the lights you want properly and lives in harmony with the factory 48v systems - no error codes or risks.

 

[mcm4ss]

in regards to the 48v thing, I have jumped several friends trucks using that 12v battery in the frunk. I have also used it in many applications charging toys, running weird lake accessories, ect. I was very surprised how much I like having that 12v so easy. Just a thought.

 

[REM]

We have made LED lights in 48v, got them in stock - we were the first aftermarket company with a legit 48v circuit board level powered LED light bar for cybertruck.

The winch is a different animal - we don't make winches, we're offering market leading winches from the top brands. It's a major to-do for them to move on something like this; if/when mainstream truck makers get to 48v, it will come - but that's not any time soon.

You should reach out to these guys:
https://comeupwinch.com/winches.php?sn=52

And there are plenty of 48v accessory batteries and charge controllers available on the market that could be tapped directly into the frunk accessory port. The 48v accessory rail can be used to charge/maintain the 48v accessory battery.

 

[T Sportline]

You should reach out to these guys:
https://comeupwinch.com/winches.php?sn=52

And there are plenty of 48v accessory batteries and charge controllers available on the market that could be tapped directly into the frunk accessory port. The 48v accessory rail can be used to charge/maintain the 48v accessory battery.

Ha ha, those are 12v winches. Typical chinese voodoo site. Thanks, we're sticking with Warn, Superlift, etc - mainstream high quality winches we know work

 

[REM]

Ha ha, those are 12v winches. Typical chinese voodoo site. Thanks, we're sticking with Warn, Superlift, etc - mainstream high quality winches we know work

Taiwanese, actually. They may actually have 48v winches available like their site says [part number 857440], but I'm sure very few people inquire about it and there is a bit of a language barrier. I doubt they would go through the trouble to list a part number if they didn't actually make it. I certainly don't know because I haven't looked that far into it. Just a quick search.

Both Warn and Superlift do outsource their manufacturing to China, however, so the point is a bit moot there. In any case, hopefully some of the big names will start manufacturing them soon.

 

[HaulingAss]

in regards to the 48v thing, I have jumped several friends trucks using that 12v battery in the frunk.

Why do you have so many friends that need jump-starts? Is incompetence the new cool? ?

 

[T Sportline]

Taiwanese, actually. They may actually have 48v winches available like their site says [part number 857440], but I'm sure very few people inquire about it and there is a bit of a language barrier. I doubt they would go through the trouble to list a part number if they didn't actually make it. I certainly don't know because I haven't looked that far into it. Just a quick search.

Both Warn and Superlift do outsource their manufacturing to China, however, so the point is a bit moot there. In any case, hopefully some of the big names will start manufacturing them soon.

The difference is performance, quality and support. Plenty of alibaba sources for things, but that doesn't make them equal to other products. This is my point. We are high confidence in what we sell - we've tested, proven, and 100% stand behind it and support it. Warn is an OEM-grade winch. Superwinch is a value option, but still product and brand that we can stand behind and get support from Superwich on.

There is no good point in trying to source a 48v winch for Cybertruck because the Cybertruck 48 aux circuit will not handle the spike loads and duty cycle from a 48v winch; we have tested and proven this. So if we decided to run a 48v winch, it won't be plug and play - we'd end up replicating our T Sportline auxiliary power system and simply setting it for 48v instead of 12v -- the exact same system solution - very easy for us; if someone wants a high load 48v auxiliary power option, we can do that today.

The root problem is Tesla uses a dc converter for 48v (it is not a 48v battery); it simply isn't spec'd to handle spike loads nor can it handle sustained high wattage run times - plus it's only a 400w max power feed, that will never run a winch. The 48v winch screen shot you show is 4180w, ten times the load a Cybertruck can support.

 

[REM]

The difference is performance, quality and support. Plenty of alibaba sources for things, but that doesn't make them equal to other products. This is my point. We are high confidence in what we sell - we've tested, proven, and 100% stand behind it and support it. Warn is an OEM-grade winch. Superwinch is a value option, but still product and brand that we can stand behind and get support from Superwich on.

There is no good point in trying to source a 48v winch for Cybertruck because the Cybertruck 48 aux circuit will not handle the spike loads and duty cycle from a 48v winch; we have tested and proven this. So if we decided to run a 48v winch, it won't be plug and play - we'd end up replicating our T Sportline auxiliary power system and simply setting it for 48v instead of 12v -- the exact same system solution - very easy for us; if someone wants a high load 48v auxiliary power option, we can do that today.

The root problem is Tesla uses a dc converter for 48v (it is not a 48v battery); it simply isn't spec'd to handle spike loads nor can it handle sustained high wattage run times - plus it's only a 400w max power feed, that will never run a winch. The 48v winch screen shot you show is 4180w, ten times the load a Cybertruck can support.

you seemed to have missed the part of my post where I said:

And there are plenty of 48v accessory batteries and charge controllers available on the market that could be tapped directly into the frunk accessory port. The 48v accessory rail can be used to charge/maintain the 48v accessory battery.

I already knew that the 400 watt limit on the accessory rail couldn't support the surge required to run a winch.

Maybe the most popular manufacturers would be open to pioneering 48v winches, but I doubt many people have reached out to them asking for it. That's my whole point here. Running at higher voltage means lower mass and lower amounts of copper since you don't have to crank the amperage up to absurd levels.

The cybertruck is an entirely new platform and an industry first for a ton a technologies. If we want to keep that ball rolling, we need to drag the rest of the industry along; kicking and screaming if we have to.

 

[T Sportline]

you seemed to have missed the part of my post where I said:



I already knew that the 400 watt limit on the accessory rail couldn't support the surge required to run a winch.

Maybe the most popular manufacturers would be open to pioneering 48v winches, but I doubt many people have reached out to them asking for it. That's my whole point here. Running at higher voltage means lower mass and lower amounts of copper since you don't have to crank the amperage up to absurd levels.

The cybertruck is an entirely new platform and an industry first for a ton a technologies. If we want to keep that ball rolling, we need to drag the rest of the industry along; kicking and screaming if we have to.

yep, i am all for 48v adoption, just not coming fast by most -- more of a critical mass of vehicles will help accelerate the transition.

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