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At this point with motor and electronics efficiencies being so high range is essentially a matter of how much battery the OEM wants to put into a vehicle. Many will use the CT as their daily driver. For that market the motivation is to have range that beats or equals the competition (e.g. Lucid). Others will use the CT as a work truck and there the motivation is to have a battery that will allow a large load to be towed a reasonable distance. Assuming towing range is half the nominal range of the CT then the 500+ mile CT becomes a 250+ mile tractor.

610 miles would, of course, be nice to have probably more because it gets towing range up but certainly 610 would put Tesla out in front - for the moment. I wouldn't get too excited about seeing more than enough range to top 500 sufficient to best Lucid in the early releases though. Batteries may be coming down in cost and weight but they are in very high demand at this point. Consider that Rivian released its shorter range truck before the long range version presumably because of constrained battery availability.
I hear ya.
Something to note. Elon stated on JR earlier this year that they were currently deciding on what the actual battery pack size/ range of the SM CT would actually be. He stated that it will be at least 300mi which is at least 20% increase.

So if they carry that same range increase proportionally through the trim levels (which I realize there is no guarantee they would).

The Trimotor would end up at ~600mi+. But that's just based on proportionally scaling up what was only stated about the single motor.

While I do believe there is a 600mi+ model being looked at and really hope its the trimotor cuz that would be hard to say no to. However am realistically thinking its more likely the Plaid model since he has stated it will be more than just 3 motors, and he personal car of choice.





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No doubt in my mind 600 miles is on their minds but assuming that the CT will be a 600 mi vehicle because someone saw an estimated range of 600 miles on a CT display is as foolish as assuming the X will be a 999 mi vehicle because someone saw 999 mile range displayed in one of my cars.

We can speculate all day about what Tesla will do as battery tech advances. Lets say they develop a battery with half the cost and half the weight per kWh. Would they put those in production vehicles and tell me my new X will cost no more than my old and go twice as far? Or will they sell the new vehicle at the same price and with the same range but with half the cells and pocket the substantial production savings? My guess is that they would do something between those extremes.
 

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During its unveiling, the Tesla Cybertruck’s tri-motor configuration was announced with some very impressive specs, including a 0-60 mph time of 2.9 seconds, a towing capacity of 14,000 pounds, and a top speed of 130 mph. But beyond this, the tri-motor Cybertruck was also announced with 500+ miles of EPA estimated range.

A 500+-mile range is extremely impressive considering the Cybertruck’s massive size and likely weight. With Elon Musk stating that vehicles like the Tesla Semi would be released with a range that’s closer to 600 miles per charge, speculations were abounding that the tri-motor Cybertruck may have a range that’s in the same ballpark as the Class 8 truck.

cybertruck-range-610-miles.jpg
Credit: US Patent Office


A recently-published patent on the Cybertruck’s user interface has now provided further hints that the all-electric pickup’s actual range may really be far above its initial “500+-mile” estimate. As could be seen in 21 out of the UI patent’s 33 drawings, the Cybertruck’s range was listed as 610 miles. This was quite interesting considering that the patent’s illustrations appeared to be screenshots from the Cybertruck’s upcoming UI.

It should be noted that patent illustrations are not a direct indication of the Cybertruck’s final specifications, and the 610-mile number may be a placeholder. Nevertheless, the possibility of a 610-mile tri-motor Cybertruck is exciting, as it would effectively establish Tesla’s battery lead in the electric pickup sector. Even formidable competitors like the Ford F-150 Lightning and the GMC Hummer EV—arguably the best electric pickups that legacy auto has unveiled to date—top out at 300 and 400 miles of range, respectively.

cybertruck-610-mile-range.jpg
Credit: US Patent Office
Tesla’s Cybertruck UI patent featured several other interesting references to the all-electric pickup’s novel features. These include the use of eye tracking technology to adjust the vehicle’s mirrors, as well as an air conditioning system that tracks passengers for optimum climate control. Several images from the patent also hint at the Cybertruck pulling a 20,000-pound trailer, as well as 20 inches of suspension travel.

The Tesla Cybertruck may be gracing US roads earlier than expected, with Gigafactory Texas accelerating its construction over the past months. Elon Musk has also mentioned that the first Cybertrucks may actually be completed later this year, with volume production of the steel pickup picking up pace next year.

SOURCE: TESLARATI
During its unveiling, the Tesla Cybertruck’s tri-motor configuration was announced with some very impressive specs, including a 0-60 mph time of 2.9 seconds, a towing capacity of 14,000 pounds, and a top speed of 130 mph. But beyond this, the tri-motor Cybertruck was also announced with 500+ miles of EPA estimated range.

A 500+-mile range is extremely impressive considering the Cybertruck’s massive size and likely weight. With Elon Musk stating that vehicles like the Tesla Semi would be released with a range that’s closer to 600 miles per charge, speculations were abounding that the tri-motor Cybertruck may have a range that’s in the same ballpark as the Class 8 truck.

cybertruck-range-610-miles.jpg
Credit: US Patent Office


A recently-published patent on the Cybertruck’s user interface has now provided further hints that the all-electric pickup’s actual range may really be far above its initial “500+-mile” estimate. As could be seen in 21 out of the UI patent’s 33 drawings, the Cybertruck’s range was listed as 610 miles. This was quite interesting considering that the patent’s illustrations appeared to be screenshots from the Cybertruck’s upcoming UI.

It should be noted that patent illustrations are not a direct indication of the Cybertruck’s final specifications, and the 610-mile number may be a placeholder. Nevertheless, the possibility of a 610-mile tri-motor Cybertruck is exciting, as it would effectively establish Tesla’s battery lead in the electric pickup sector. Even formidable competitors like the Ford F-150 Lightning and the GMC Hummer EV—arguably the best electric pickups that legacy auto has unveiled to date—top out at 300 and 400 miles of range, respectively.

cybertruck-610-mile-range.jpg
Credit: US Patent Office
Tesla’s Cybertruck UI patent featured several other interesting references to the all-electric pickup’s novel features. These include the use of eye tracking technology to adjust the vehicle’s mirrors, as well as an air conditioning system that tracks passengers for optimum climate control. Several images from the patent also hint at the Cybertruck pulling a 20,000-pound trailer, as well as 20 inches of suspension travel.

The Tesla Cybertruck may be gracing US roads earlier than expected, with Gigafactory Texas accelerating its construction over the past months. Elon Musk has also mentioned that the first Cybertrucks may actually be completed later this year, with volume production of the steel pickup picking up pace next year.

SOURCE: TESLARATI
 

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Tesla should add hardware for additional battery capacity that is stored in the truck bed for those who want to add it later? 3,500 lbs of battery and cooling would produce a lot of range.



At this point with motor and electronics efficiencies being so high range is essentially a matter of how much battery the OEM wants to put into a vehicle. Many will use the CT as their daily driver. For that market the motivation is to have range that beats or equals the competition (e.g. Lucid). Others will use the CT as a work truck and there the motivation is to have a battery that will allow a large load to be towed a reasonable distance. Assuming towing range is half the nominal range of the CT then the 500+ mile CT becomes a 250+ mile tractor.

610 miles would, of course, be nice to have probably more because it gets towing range up but certainly 610 would put Tesla out in front - for the moment. I wouldn't get too excited about seeing more than enough range to top 500 sufficient to best Lucid in the early releases though. Batteries may be coming down in cost and weight but they are in very high demand at this point. Consider that Rivian released its shorter range truck before the long range version presumably because of constrained battery availability.
 

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All I got from these pics was...
"In the neck. With a knife."
 

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I hear ya.
Something to note. Elon stated on JR earlier this year that they were currently deciding on what the actual battery pack size/ range of the SM CT would actually be. He stated that it will be at least 300mi which is at least 20% increase.

So if they carry that same range increase proportionally through the trim levels (which I realize there is no guarantee they would).
I forgot about that. Elon has also mentioned something about 300 miles being the new threshold. If the CT has 300 miles for base, it would only stand to reason that dual motor would also get a boost. 400miles? Doubtful. 350 would be nice. If I were Tesla I wouldn't want to go too high w/ dual motor as I'd want everyone who really wanted to tow get the tri motor.

It is interesting how the 610 miles correlates to about same range increase in semi. They are using same cells so...
 

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Plan to drive cross country visiting family and friends, so the extra miles would be great...
 

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I'm really not impressed with the 0-60 in 2 Nano seconds. Where are ya going to do that without getting a ticket for excessive acceleration? Maybe work on extending the battery life instead of setting land speed records.
 

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I'm really not impressed with the 0-60 in 2 Nano seconds. Where are ya going to do that without getting a ticket for excessive acceleration? Maybe work on extending the battery life instead of setting land speed records.
The stupid fast 0-60 really are just a by-product of any EV. You take a large battery pack (needed for range) and apply that power to a robust electric motor (for durability) and you end up with fast 0-60's due to peak torque being available pretty much instantly. This doesn't really require any R&D effort to achieve and is not taking way that R&D effort for extending the battery life.

Outside of the Stainless Steel Cybertruck, we are rapidly approaching battery lifespans that can exceed the durability of the metals and plastics used to make the body of the vehicle.

For instance, a 500mile range CT with batteries that can take take 1000 equivalent fully recharge cycles before degrading to 80% capacity provides the battery a near ~450 ,000 mile duty. I honestly would expect the newer batteries to approach the 2000+ cycles thus giving closer to 900,000 duty before seeking a replacement battery pack. At these types of life spans of the battery, it is far more likely that the vehicle will die off due to other issues before ever needing a replacement battery pack. Now if the body was not made of SS and instead was a more traditional rustable metal, the vehicle would have rotted away way before the motors or batteries became an issue and you are getting really close to over engineering something and passing those costs on to consumers.

Now if your thinking improvements to energy density by both volume and mass, now this I could see as valued R&D. This could bring lighter, smaller as well as longer range to just about anything with wheels or wings.
 

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In full autonomous camping mode, the CT will connect the trailer, drive to the campsite, deploy campground and cooking elements while leaving you at home enjoying the house alone.
Just need the autopilot from the airplane movie to fool the other half into thinking you are actually there.
 

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During its unveiling, the Tesla Cybertruck’s tri-motor configuration was announced with some very impressive specs, including a 0-60 mph time of 2.9 seconds, a towing capacity of 14,000 pounds, and a top speed of 130 mph. But beyond this, the tri-motor Cybertruck was also announced with 500+ miles of EPA estimated range.

A 500+-mile range is extremely impressive considering the Cybertruck’s massive size and likely weight. With Elon Musk stating that vehicles like the Tesla Semi would be released with a range that’s closer to 600 miles per charge, speculations were abounding that the tri-motor Cybertruck may have a range that’s in the same ballpark as the Class 8 truck.

cybertruck-range-610-miles.jpg
Credit: US Patent Office


A recently-published patent on the Cybertruck’s user interface has now provided further hints that the all-electric pickup’s actual range may really be far above its initial “500+-mile” estimate. As could be seen in 21 out of the UI patent’s 33 drawings, the Cybertruck’s range was listed as 610 miles. This was quite interesting considering that the patent’s illustrations appeared to be screenshots from the Cybertruck’s upcoming UI.

It should be noted that patent illustrations are not a direct indication of the Cybertruck’s final specifications, and the 610-mile number may be a placeholder. Nevertheless, the possibility of a 610-mile tri-motor Cybertruck is exciting, as it would effectively establish Tesla’s battery lead in the electric pickup sector. Even formidable competitors like the Ford F-150 Lightning and the GMC Hummer EV—arguably the best electric pickups that legacy auto has unveiled to date—top out at 300 and 400 miles of range, respectively.

cybertruck-610-mile-range.jpg
Credit: US Patent Office
Tesla’s Cybertruck UI patent featured several other interesting references to the all-electric pickup’s novel features. These include the use of eye tracking technology to adjust the vehicle’s mirrors, as well as an air conditioning system that tracks passengers for optimum climate control. Several images from the patent also hint at the Cybertruck pulling a 20,000-pound trailer, as well as 20 inches of suspension travel.

The Tesla Cybertruck may be gracing US roads earlier than expected, with Gigafactory Texas accelerating its construction over the past months. Elon Musk has also mentioned that the first Cybertrucks may actually be completed later this year, with volume production of the steel pickup picking up pace next year.

SOURCE: TESLARATI
Hoping my 240 mile range single motor choice will be upgraded to closer to 300 miles.
 

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Some people need the 2.9 acceleration. Want, need, same thing.
 

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