You live in a 1st world developed nation. You bring a 1st world perspective.I dunno, I'm not a rocket scientist like my buddy Elon, but as long as you're putting an electric motor in there, why not do away with the ICE and the transmission? It just seems hybrids are for companies who haven't quite figured out the BEV concept.
You live in a 1st world developed nation. You bring a 1st world perspective.
The rest of the 3rd world averages ~$12/da income. Electricity is unstable at best. I am currently in the developed nation of Panama and the grid goes down almost daily. Its a USD economy country and there are no Teslas. The infrastructure Internationally will depend on petrol. Diesel to be exact.
THUS Hybrid has the strongest proposition over BEV. Diesel will be important as refined gasoline is too expensive. Even in the USA BEV adoption is only 2%.
Its a long road to get off the oil addiction bind.
I bought a PHEV Chrysler Pacifica in Nov. and have some answers to that question.I dunno, I'm not a rocket scientist like my buddy Elon, but as long as you're putting an electric motor in there, why not do away with the ICE and the transmission? It just seems hybrids are for companies who haven't quite figured out the BEV concept.
I really have to wonder if this "breaking in period" is really necessary. Honestly, how long does it take to get used to a new vehicle paradigm? I get that if someone were to just suddenly get an EV that there would be a period of time for them to come to full realization of the benefits or to trust some of the differences.I bought a PHEV Chrysler Pacifica in Nov. and have some answers to that question.
It is a way to ease people/my wife into EV ownership. She now sees how easy it is to plug in the car and unplug it just like a cellphone, to keep it charged. Getting an understanding of the benefit of having the car on and listening to music, running the AC without a V6 gas powered engine running. She's actually starting to enjoy how quiet it is. With the weight of the batteries down low this Pacific corners better than our Sienna did.
Also, there is no range anxiety at all. When the first 30 miles of EV driving ends, it seamlessly starts working as a hybrid, regenerating energy on downhills and braking and using that energy to supplement with electric motors at times to increase fuel mileage. In addition to range anxiety, there is the anxiety of having to stop and charge up for extended periods of time on road trips. With this Pacifica, we can drive 500 miles between fill ups and averaging about 30 MPG in a minivan. We can plug in at an AirBnB if we want overnight, or just drive as a hybrid for the whole trip.
Also, with this vehicle being a PHEV the brakes are mostly regen and the ICE engine doesn't get used that much and requires less maintenance per miles driven. Since Nov. our gas powered miles are about 1/4 of all miles driven. This will change dramatically if we take it on some road trips, but so far that's been our M.O.
Don't get me wrong, I am really excited about getting a Cyber
truck and having the simplicity of EV only. But, even after we get the CT, it will be hard to convince my wife to take it on road trips and have to stop at superchargers along the way. (we're going off-roading dear) may get used.
1yr ago, I thought same. I thought whole world would BEV. I agree electricity is easy! BUT its nigh impossible at scale....Easier to come by than gasoline.
This 'buy cheap now buy be hooked on the oil tanker' is the loss-leader baked into the process.
I can see how you would come to those conclusions. I'm not sure that they are entirely correct though. There are a couple mitigating factors that I think may be relevant. For one, electricity is currently very unreliable in the areas you mention because the old world power grids are being used to power areas that do not have enough infrastructure and that are at the mercy of big oil in many ways. My thought is that much like the adoption of cell phone networks instead of deploying land lines everywhere, the power grids in these areas may just leap frog all the unreliable infrastructure and jump to using mini-grids powered by solar/wind and backed up with batteries. You mentioned the limited supply of batteries but that is primarily for battery chemistries that work well for vehicles. There are a number of existing battery chemistries that might be more available and work just as well for stabilizing power grids (especially at a smaller scale). Additionally there are new battery chemistries (and battery alternatives like capacitors) being developed quickly. The costs of all these materials are dropping quickly and even now are not exactly cost prohibitive in many locations with unreliable power grids.1yr ago, I thought same. I thought whole world would BEV. I agree electricity is easy! BUT its nigh impossible at scale.
Now I see how brittle has Panama an electric grid, that it goes down at first breeze, every storm and crashes hard overnight. No Teslas here. Closest is D.R. go figure. Ditto all of Central America, Africa exc S.A., South America and eastern EU. That’s a BIG footprint.
Elon is begging Nickel anywhere. Russia is even a hole card. The copper mine here in Panama sells ore which includes copper, nickel and gold. BEV have boosted its national GDP from 6% to 8% on inflation alone. There is a supply crunch in the near term for battery. No fooling…these events hit BEV fast as Tesla passes thru price increases.
That Goromine in New Caledonia? Aussies own it now, they process lead and will upgrade Goromine to increase its efficiency. That nickel is years away.
There are 400 BEV car models vying for a small amount of battery. Not all can be successful. Lucky will be half who make it to year 2125. Canoo is dead before it started - Apple thinks its CEO can make Apple car. Lordstown? Next. Apple is in no hurry – for good reason.
We have to recognize that the mythical BEV future is problematic. Rich, developed, wealthy and electrified grid countries will be the early adopters on the backs of whom the infrastructure will be built-out for BEV.
The rest of the world will be have-nots, unable to support BEV, compete on price nor finance any kind of transition off petroleum. Have-nots are simply petro-capture markets. Have-nots are decades away from BEV.
Bottomline is that Elon could not afford to transistion a USD economy country like Panama, much less take on lesser developed economies. These countries are out-of-reach. They belong to Hybrid at best, and hybrid isn’t all bad.
SteveJobs put it best. It is the only ever time that he came close to using a car analog.You don't need an electrical grid for a BEV because the BEV has a battery.
It doesn't care when or what generates the electrons.
Have a solar array? Powers the car. Diesel generator? Powers the car. Natural gas generator? Powers the car. Hydropower? Wind? Grid goes out? Car still works.
SteveJobs put it best. It is the only ever time that he came close to using a car analog.
You can’t build a product that depends upon weak bridges to your customer.