FSD 12.5.5.2 First Drive in Cybertruck Video

[kappaknight]

Only main issue I had was in Georgia were it continuously thinks the speed limit drops to 40. I watched it close and it doesn't seem to be triggered by the actual minimum speed 40 sign. It just happens about every 10 miles from Macon to the Florida state line. Seems like it's some kind of mapping error. I have to hit the pedal to get it back up to speed. It's not the worst thing ever but I wish it wouldn't do it.

I had this issue going up to TN on I-85. For me it was definitely the Minimum speed signs. When it sees them, it updates the max speed. When I was next to a truck blocking the view, it seems to be okay.

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[abrader]

Had another fun commute today. It went straight through a red light. Confidently.

Iv had mine go thru a redlight once following another car on a close yellow.

Im abut 1K miles in on my Cyberbeast. For the most part its been a great FSD.

Just updated to the new version lastnight.

 

[TeslaKen]

What happened to showing cones and barrels in construction zones? Are these missing for others as well?

 

[Tecyber1]

This revived the debate about Google's Waymo's Lidar vs Tesla's vision-camera.

Waymo was running since 2015 while we are still on unsolved scary-sharp left turn on FSD and this is already near the end of 2024.

An aside, yesterday, my FSD disengaged with a message saying my front view is degraded. And I was just traveling in a mildly dusty road. Lidar will definitely penetrate even heavy dust, fog or recognize the difference between a concrete or pile of snow up front.

100% the dumbest move Elon ever made and he's simply doubled down and moving forward...LIDAR was the way and the science proves it. Vision can work, but for now it *wink* "works".

 

[CyberTruckeeTheOne]

100% the dumbest move Elon ever made and he's simply doubled down and moving forward...LIDAR was the way and the science proves it. Vision can work, but for now it *wink* "works".

I bet his top engineers had told him that since.

But you know, the same reason that Tesla has the highest turn-over for his direct reports.

Sorry, if this reply will reach you with long delays. My posts are getting embargoed and I am not getting the reasons why.

I now don't have the motivation to post and just read about new CT features and updates.

 

[Fausto]

I bet his top engineers had told him that since.

But you know, the same reason that Tesla has the highest turn-over for his direct reports.

Sorry, if this reply will reach you with king delays. My posts are getting embargoed and I am not getting the reasons why.

I now don't have the motivation to post and just read about new CT features and updates.

Yeah I'm with you. Someone likes to play God on this forum. And I think I know who.

 

[DittoDan]

What happened to showing cones and barrels in construction zones? Are these missing for others as well?

and trash cans, they all went away with the FSD upgrade.

Dan the Man from Michigan

 

[CyberTruckeeTheOne]

and trash cans, they all went away with the FSD upgrade.

Dan the Man from Michigan

And to think, it wowed me before.

I really checked, it counted the correct numbers of cones on the road.

Then knows and shows on screen if it's the conical or the cylindrical type.

 

[jookyone]

Like you're with your 19 year old who you still don't trust but have started to relax with driving.

Still not relaxed at 19? When did they start? Or from 1 to 10 what is your own level of comfort driving.

 

[jookyone]

This revived the debate about Google's Waymo's Lidar vs Tesla's vision-camera.

Waymo was running since 2015 while we are still on unsolved scary-sharp left turn on FSD and this is already near the end of 2024.

LIDAR measures distance. Software samples 1000s of timed return trips against objects to determine distances and build virtual models. It's literally nullified by fog, rain, water or anything else that light can't go thru. The noise that LiDAR generates vs its upside hasn't been justified. In the same ways stereoscopic vision (humans) can determine if it's raining or not (though not well, ask the automatic wipers) eventually vision can do these things. Eventually...

Not sure why people think LIDAR is some smoking gun or that Waymo is a Tesla with just LiDAR added. It's not. At best LiDAR could solve a small subset of shortcomings, like a CFL lightbulb until vision is up to snuff. If you want the experience that people think Waymo gives (they are wrong) you add every sensor possible. And your car looks like this (Waymo car):

Waymo fields 700 cars in geo-fenced urban areas. They lead all ADS systems in number of crashes with 445.

Telsa with 5,000,000 vehicles has 1,492 crashes during the same period of time on Lvl 2 ADS.
To compare (higher ratio is better; vehicles:crashes):
GM has about 40,000 SuperCruise vehicles on the road with 27 crashes during that same period of time a ratio of 1,481:1
Waymo's ratio is 1.5:1
Tesla's ratio is 3,351:1

This doesn't even touch miles driven which makes all of these stats look worse for competitors.
Have fun here! https://www.nhtsa.gov/laws-regulations/standing-general-order-crash-reporting

 

[CyberTruckeeTheOne]

LIDAR measures distance. Software samples 1000s of timed return trips against objects to determine distances and build virtual models. It's literally nullified by fog, rain, water or anything else that light can't go thru. The noise that LiDAR generates vs its upside hasn't been justified yet. In the same ways stereoscopic vision (humans) can determine if it's raining or not (though not well, ask the automatic wipers) eventually vision can do these things. Eventually...

Not sure why people think LIDAR is some smoking gun or that Waymo is a Tesla with just LiDAR added. It's not. At best LiDAR could solve a small subset of shortcomings, like a CFL lightbulb until vision is up to snuff. If you want the experience that people think Waymo gives (they are wrong) you add every sensor possible. And your car looks like this (Waymo car):

Waymo/Google systems as far as I know is Lidar and radar.

 

[Cyber_P]

Still not relaxed at 19? When did they start? Or from 1 to 10 what is your own level of comfort driving.

I was just throwing out a number. Mine are under 10 still.

 

[jookyone]

Waymo/Google systems as far as I know is Lidar and radar.

They use LiDAR (4 units), radar (6 units), cameras (9 single cameras and the 360° camera array on the roof), custom HD preloaded maps, GPS, and AI that's why they look the way they do. And still average nearly 1 crash per vehicle. This isn't the way.

https://support.google.com/waymo/answer/9190838?hl=en
https://waymo.com/waymo-driver/#:~:text=Lidar sensors are located all,eye view of what's around.

 

[HaulingAss]

Geez, there are a lot of Cybertrucks in that video.

They must be CGI.

Because I heard Cybertruck wasn't selling well.

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