FSD: I'm starting to believe.

[TickTock]

I've had a love/hate relationship with FSD on my 2018 Model3 for several years - often expressing my frustration on the forums. Today, I took my first trip on FSD in my CB this morning. 20 miles with about an even split of freeway and surface streets. Made the entire trip without a single intervention(*). Never took it out of FSD until I reached work. I also never had to wiggle the wheel which is really nice - it seems quite content if you are facing forward with at least one hand lightly touching the wheel. Even when turning left into construction-obstructed lanes it performed perfectly with only a slight hesitance. It never once switched into the wrong lane coming up on a turn like all previous releases of FSD on my 3.

I'm starting to believe...

(*) - I did proactively initiate a couple lane changes to take advantage of a break in traffic but this was optional - never had to interact to stop it from doing anything bad.

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[countryboy]

Well, that's good, but I just got 12.5.5, and in 3-4 miles of small roads off the main highway, it crossed double yellow 4 times, stayed in wrong lane once, cut corners and went on the grass shoulder several times, once all the way into the ditch, which reminded me to pay closer attention! Not sure how 12.5.5 is worse than 11.x as far as staying on the road. I hope the audio feedback processing algorithm weights/prioritizes feedback by tone and expletives... because they really need to fix that. At one point the truck just stopped in a bend, sitting there until I told it to go, and setting it to 75 on the interstate with no cars around it just stays at 61mph indefinitely unless I hit the throttle, same if following traffic that slows, truck won't accelerate on its own when everyone speeds back up... all that said, happy to finally get FSD! Other than throttle, performance on wide, well-marked roads is great, awesome not having to torque the wheel every 30 seconds to let it know I'm still there!

 

[SCTesla]

FYI, you don't have to touch the wheel at all as long as your eyes remain on the road.

 

[SentinelOne]

Did a 50 mile hwy trip today….speeds a bit under but did good….had 2 narrow round abouts to get on hwy….did one good, bit on curb on the other….no wheel nag is awesome! Will only get better and its reasonable at this point!

 

[HaulingAss]

Well, that's good, but I just got 12.5.5, and in 3-4 miles of small roads off the main highway, it crossed double yellow 4 times, stayed in wrong lane once, cut corners and went on the grass shoulder several times, once all the way into the ditch, which reminded me to pay closer attention! Not sure how 12.5.5 is worse than 11.x as far as staying on the road. I hope the audio feedback processing algorithm weights/prioritizes feedback by tone and expletives... because they really need to fix that. At one point the truck just stopped in a bend, sitting there until I told it to go, and setting it to 75 on the interstate with no cars around it just stays at 61mph indefinitely unless I hit the throttle, same if following traffic that slows, truck won't accelerate on its own when everyone speeds back up... all that said, happy to finally get FSD! Other than throttle, performance on wide, well-marked roads is great, awesome not having to torque the wheel every 30 seconds to let it know I'm still there!

It sounds like there is something wrong with your hardware because mine drives nothing like that and I've taken it on really bad roads with undefined pavement edges.

 

[TickTock]

Well, that's good, but I just got 12.5.5, and in 3-4 miles of small roads off the main highway, it crossed double yellow 4 times, stayed in wrong lane once, cut corners and went on the grass shoulder several times, once all the way into the ditch, which reminded me to pay closer attention! Not sure how 12.5.5 is worse than 11.x as far as staying on the road. I hope the audio feedback processing algorithm weights/prioritizes feedback by tone and expletives... because they really need to fix that. At one point the truck just stopped in a bend, sitting there until I told it to go, and setting it to 75 on the interstate with no cars around it just stays at 61mph indefinitely unless I hit the throttle, same if following traffic that slows, truck won't accelerate on its own when everyone speeds back up... all that said, happy to finally get FSD! Other than throttle, performance on wide, well-marked roads is great, awesome not having to torque the wheel every 30 seconds to let it know I'm still there!

Sounds like some of my experiences in my model3. I think it definitely handles some roads better than others but I also wonder how much variation in performance you get from vehicle to vehicle depending on the fidelity of the camera feeds. Would be really interesting to drive two identical Tesla's in FSD on a problematic route to see how consistently they handle the route.

 

[Gurule92]

Well, that's good, but I just got 12.5.5, and in 3-4 miles of small roads off the main highway, it crossed double yellow 4 times, stayed in wrong lane once, cut corners and went on the grass shoulder several times, once all the way into the ditch, which reminded me to pay closer attention! Not sure how 12.5.5 is worse than 11.x as far as staying on the road. I hope the audio feedback processing algorithm weights/prioritizes feedback by tone and expletives... because they really need to fix that. At one point the truck just stopped in a bend, sitting there until I told it to go, and setting it to 75 on the interstate with no cars around it just stays at 61mph indefinitely unless I hit the throttle, same if following traffic that slows, truck won't accelerate on its own when everyone speeds back up... all that said, happy to finally get FSD! Other than throttle, performance on wide, well-marked roads is great, awesome not having to torque the wheel every 30 seconds to let it know I'm still there!

I had an issue like this on my X when 12 first came out. I tried recalibrating the cameras and they would not calibrate again. Had to take it to service. Once done the weird lane things stopped. Took a couple days, a new camera and a software reinstall.

Maybe recalibrate cams? If they refuse to calibrate you're on your way.

My only issue with FSD now is I feel a stutteryness with the 12.5.x that wasn't there in 12.4.x.

But I'm on hw3

 

[Outdoors]

Interesting on how many people are completely new to Tesla. Awesome to see. You can see it in the FSD conversations.

Little nervousness. That's great.

If you don't have a little fear of heights.....well ya need some. One makes better decisions with a bit.

 

[SCTesla]

It sounds like there is something wrong with your hardware because mine drives nothing like that and I've taken it on really bad roads with undefined pavement edges.

The CT has done these for Whole Mars and Chuck. It's not every drive or every time, but it randomly shits the bed. You have to pay attention. It's not nearly as refined as the SEXY fleet.

It will get better, but this is an early access release.

 

[RickJ19Zeta8]

Ill 2nd that this is an early release build and you need to watch it. I had the truck ride the middle line (tires on the line) on the expressway, and when I moved to the left lane it touched the rumble strips, it wanted to be so far left.

But on a divided 4-lane 55mph road, it was perfect. And perfectly centered.
On a 2-lane 55mph road, it was again perfect driving directly into the sun. And perfectly centered.

And its fixed more than a dozen phantom braking spots, bad turns, wrong lane changes on my daily commute. So overall, a huge improvement.

 

[SCTesla]

Ill 2nd that this is an early release build and you need to watch it. I had the truck ride the middle line (tires on the line) on the expressway, and when I moved to the left lane it touched the rumble strips, it wanted to be so far left.

But on a divided 4-lane 55mph road, it was perfect. And perfectly centered.
On a 2-lane 55mph road, it was again perfect driving directly into the sun. And perfectly centered.

And its fixed more than a dozen phantom braking spots, bad turns, wrong lane changes on my daily commute. So overall, a huge improvement.

I had 2 bad drives and 3 great drives. 1 of my bad drives, FSD mis-judged the turn and was going straight for a ditch until I took over. It was like it didn't realize how big the truck was, similar to what Chuck showed yesterday.

I've never had my MS or 2 MYs do that, but this is a super early build and it looks like they pushed it early to ensure they made the deadline, but it's absolutely better than not having it and from being a tester on 3 vehicles since 2021, it will absolutely get better.

 

[Stuck4ger]

I caught a bad cold over the weekend and am sick in bed so I let my lady friend (MX with FSD driver) take the beast to work, a 30+ mile commute that starts on windy mountain roads, goes to divided highway, then some city driving.

She just texted me this unsolicited review:
Good morning
FSD handled beautifully. Lane changes, driver avoidance, smooth and controlled deceleration, precise/tight corner turns.
It even signaled and turned into [her place of biz]. I took over. I was nervous about it scraping the gate post. ?

I think you need to order yourself another one.

 

[HaulingAss]

The CT has done these for Whole Mars and Chuck. It's not every drive or every time, but it randomly shits the bed. You have to pay attention. It's not nearly as refined as the SEXY fleet.

It will get better, but this is an early access release.

Chuck was driving an early access release before 12.5.5. He has one video out with 12.5.5 and it's not an early access release, it's in wide general release. It looks like your comments are based upon the previous early release version before the current version that has merged stacks.

You will have to pay attention until it's no longer Supervised FSD. No surprise there. That's probably at least a year away unless the recent trajectory continues to accelerate.

 

[SCTesla]

Chuck was driving an early access release before 12.5.5. He has one video out with 12.5.5 and it's not an early access release, it's in wide general release. It looks like your comments are based upon the previous early release version before the current version that has merged stacks.

No. Chuck's video where the CT goes the wrong way is the same version I have installed on my truck. 2024.30.20 FSD 12.5.5.



All of us have the same early access build. I received my update hours after Chuck, the same exact build. He never received a different one on his CT.

Read your release notes, it says "This is an early access build".

 

[TickTock]

One interesting thing I noticed was that the truck *did not* render the trash cans on the street set out for pickup. In my 3, it sees them and puts a 3d representation on the screen. I suspect the cybertruck sees them since it didn't hit any - just doesn't show them.

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