KING KONG cybertruck wiper not very futuristic...here is how to produce the look this trucks deserves...

[Luke42]

Seems like you're just accustomed to your terrible interaction.

-Crissa

Nature doesn't care about Usability. ??‍

Legacy carmakers (especially those located in Michigan) are actually pretty good at designing around the problems presented by harsher winter climates.

My GMC Sierra is pretty easy to open when icy, but I've had cars which were not (Mazda5). It's all about what collects in the seams, the hinge points, and the handles. On some cars, opening the back hatch can lead to ice/snow being pinched between the hatch and the body.

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[JBee]

I joined a bit late I guess.

The only complication with the linear only motion is where the water goes as wiper moves medially, has this been discussed?

I guess a single wiper wouldn’t have this issue but two could. My solution would be to have the blade lift slightly as it passes over the midline.

No worries, always good to have someone to talk ideas through and get their perspective. There's not many active aussies on here either.

So my original idea was to just have one wiper going accross the windscreen which would then eject water etc to either side of the vehicle. Every swipe direction expels water and theres no air resistance from the blade, and water can flow up and over the apex. The low windscreen angle means it won't run down the windscreen particularly well, and probably not at all at speed as the driving airflow will push it up the incline fairly easily. The BAW is not particularly suited to deal with that.

The other thing is just the shear size of the windscreen, its virtually the sizeof a King size bed at 1.8m wide and high. That BAW is a good 1.5m (5ft) long!!

The problem with that is of course making something that can apply enough pressure along the whole wiper length with that amount of leverage. Thats why a top and bottom mounted wiper would halve the force required in comparison.

A dual wiper version could also probably work, but would only be required if the wipe speed is not high enough. It has a lot of area to cover!

 

[Deleted member 5322]

a buddy of mine had a car with pop up headlights.... the suckers froze shut every northern Canadian winter, just like a concealed wiper would be sure to. A hood is not an equivalent comparison, Comrade.

Does his car have heating headlight?

 

[jerhenderson]

Does his car have heating headlight?

nope...... if the wiper is to be concealed it must have that feature, or people that experience real winter are screwed.

 

[Bill906]

nope...... if the wiper is to be concealed it must have that feature, or people that experience real winter are screwed.

Stainless steel is harder than ice. If we have the technology to accelerate this monster to 60MPH in under 3 seconds, we have the technology to break ice.

I could see a concealed container pop up out of the hood In two peices, the main container and the wiper pivot. Once up the wiper moves out of the container. Once the wiper is out, the container part goes back down but wiper and pivot point stay up. Wiper wipes and pushes the snow, water mud etc. OVER the closed container Instead of in it. When done container comes back up, wiper goes into container and wiper, pivot point and container all sink back into the hood.

I believe Tesla had an issue with ice sealing doors closed. They learned and added a device to force the door open. They could use that same technology here.

 

[charliemagpie]

Just put a robot under the car. Use your app to ask it to wipe off the snow before you get there.

When it rains, Robot will simply crawl out and wipe the glass.
All the while, waiving at everyone.

Easy as Pie !

 

[jerhenderson]

Are you trying to say you don't like long thick black things?

he said they need lip suction.

 

[jerhenderson]

Stainless steel is harder than ice. If we have the technology to accelerate this monster to 60MPH in under 3 seconds, we have the technology to break ice.

I could see a concealed container pop up out of the hood In two peices, the main container and the wiper pivot. Once up the wiper moves out of the container. Once the wiper is out, the container part goes back down but wiper and pivot point stay up. Wiper wipes and pushes the snow, water mud etc. OVER the closed container Instead of in it. When done container comes back up, wiper goes into container and wiper, pivot point and container all sink back into the hood.

I believe Tesla had an issue with ice sealing doors closed. They learned and added a device to force the door open. They could use that same technology here.

ever try to pick ice chunks from a distance of 24-36 inches using an ice scraper that are jammed in a narrow opening at -30 Celsius at 0600 hours ?

 

[John K]

ever try to pick ice chunks from a distance of 24-36 inches using an ice scraper that are jammed in a narrow opening at -30 Celsius at 0600 hours ?

No… ?

 

[JBee]

ever try to pick ice chunks from a distance of 24-36 inches using an ice scraper that are jammed in a narrow opening at -30 Celsius at 0600 hours ?

My solution to that would be to move somewhere warmer.

 

[charliemagpie]

Yea, sorry for people who live in harsh climates.

I live in Melbourne Australia, hardly ever gets to freezing temperature.

And I want to move to warmer climate lol

 

[Bill906]

ever try to pick ice chunks from a distance of 24-36 inches using an ice scraper that are jammed in a narrow opening at -30 Celsius at 0600 hours ?

Yes.

Not sure I'm getting your point.

 

[SAVFPV]

Back in 1968 GM make a futuristic looking car... the 68 Corvette with disappearing wipers! I have a 69 Vett and love the way the cool narrow wiper cowl behind the back of the hood works. Its conceals the wipers until the wiper switch is turned on and the cowl comes up revealing two wipers that starts wiping the window... wipers even has the spraying fluid feature!

Now, 53 years after the cool concealed wipers, the Cybertruck needs just enough wiper to clean the view of driver and passenger... not a 30 sq ft cleaning monster that look so 1900's...an eyesore yuk...yes, I said yuk not on my futuristic truck! Remember the Cybertruck is a clean looking "state of the art" EV full of cool tricks... the wipers will have to be one more Tesla trick to get it right!

Thanks for this info, I checked out a video of the operation of the headlights and wiper door. Very cool old school pneumatic system!

 

[ecotrials]

Perhaps I am missing something on all these magnetic designs. My question is how will you actually get a magnetic solution to actually move the wiper blade. Remember it is magnetically attached from the outside to the inside of the windshield with enough force to prevent blowing off, falling off in Baja from landing a jump or preventing theft? I imagine that much holding force will make the wiper immovable as you have just invented a kind of magnetic c-clamp. Having a wiper blade that would just sheer ice off the windshield would be child's play by comparison. Just sayin'.

 

[JBee]

Perhaps I am missing something on all these magnetic designs. My question is how will you actually get a magnetic solution to actually move the wiper blade. Remember it is magnetically attached from the outside to the inside of the windshield with enough force to prevent blowing off, falling off in Baja from landing a jump or preventing theft? I imagine that much holding force will make the wiper immovable as you have just invented a kind of magnetic c-clamp. Having a wiper blade that would just sheer ice off the windshield would be child's play by comparison. Just sayin'.

The answer is in the phrase "linear magenetic motor" in the comments. Essentially this is an electric motor that is spread out flat over a distance, instead of rotating around an axis. That linear motor would provide the holding forces for the wiper as well as propel it back and forth. There can also be a physical bracket to park the blade in to stow it. The linear motors would be embedded in the windscreen so that from the outside its just one glass surface. This works because the Magnetic force can act through glass. The wiper would stay vertically at all times and would expel water etc off the sides of the CT.

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