New CT Owner

[RAY INGRASSIA]

Wow, it's much nicer looking than the one on the right. Good choice. Congrats, enjoy and be safe.

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[Wonderful]

Looks life Fife! Welcome to the club and its great to see another Cyberbeast in the area! I'm across the bridge where there's less homeless.

 

[HaulingAss]

Wow, it's much nicer looking than the one on the right.

Well, it really is nicer looking that the one next to it.

But only because it's his!

 

[GoldNekNinja]

Just remember that although it feels more like a sports car than any truck, it isn't. The brakes in particular aren't as proportional to that crazy acceleration it has as they would be with most sports cars. That probably accounts for a few particularly dumb-a__ accidents. The top speed is limited to 130 or so, which is probably why it doesn't do better on the quarter mile. Doubtless that limit is due to brake and tire constraints.

So have fun, but leave a little extra room for that 7,000 lb beast to stop.

Definitely, I can see the brake pedal feels quite mushy. I only launch the truck on an empty straight road behind a neighborhood. It's like a mini drag strip!

 

[rlhamil]

No extra stopping room required. Both versions of the Cybertruck stop shorter than average for the segment.

Maybe you were fooled by Tesla haters who take just about every aspect of the Cybertruck and try to present it as a negative. Or maybe you have just never measured the actual stopping distance under controlled conditions and compared it to the competition.

"segment"? If you mean does it stop as well or better than another full size pickup, I'm sure it does, they wouldn't get that wrong. But a fair comparison to another pickup was not my point, rather a comparison to a sports car with about the same acceleration (if higher top speed) as a CB, and that I would expect to probably be able to stop faster, being much lighter. Like 97 ft vs 126 ft 60-0, for a Corvette vs Cybertruck (A/T tires).

I'm also thinking of accidents not necessarily involving Teslas at all, where excessive speed was a factor.

Because the CT handles and accelerates so darn well, without keeping it in mind one could forget at exactly the wrong time that it's way bigger than a sports car.

No need to go defensive so fast, you might consider that what someone was saying was not what you heard.

 

[DaBagBoy]

....Check it out (It's the one on the left):

Damn good thing it wasn't that ugly one on the right!

 

[BlueLightning]

Hey everyone, I am excited to join this community. Picked up my Non-FS CyberBeast on New Years Eve. Got it equipped with FSD as well. Check it out (It's the one on the left):

This won't be my first EV, as I'm coming from a Mach-E GT, but it is my first Tesla. So far, I'm loving it!

Very awesome, ? congrats ?

 

[HaulingAss]

No need to go defensive so fast, you might consider that what someone was saying was not what you heard.

So what you were saying is a Cybertruck with All-Terrain tires won't stop as fast as a Corvette with DOT legal racing tires?

OK, good tip.

 

[rlhamil]

So what you were saying is a Cybertruck with All-Terrain tires won't stop as fast as a Corvette with DOT legal racing tires?

OK, good tip.

Obviously. Not just the tires probably; optional track package for S Plaid includes upgraded brakes. But the worry is that someone lets the feeling of great performance override their common sense.

Pretty sure it’s happened. Not too many people (aside from a few YouTubers) plan to do something like that, but somehow it happens anyway.

 

[AlmostHuman]

 

[HaulingAss]

Obviously. Not just the tires probably; optional track package for S Plaid includes upgraded brakes. But the worry is that someone lets the feeling of great performance override their common sense.

Pretty sure it’s happened. Not too many people (aside from a few YouTubers) plan to do something like that, but somehow it happens anyway.

The upgraded brakes on the S Plaid don't change the emergency stopping distances. They are to increase thermal capacity so the car can do more heavy braking at high speeds before brake fade starts to kick in.

This discussion is about emergency stopping distances. That can be improved by putting more sporty, more street orientated tires on the Cybertruck. Better brakes won't move the needle at all when it comes to how quickly the Cybertruck can stop.

 

[rlhamil]

The upgraded brakes on the S Plaid don't change the emergency stopping distances. They are to increase thermal capacity so the car can do more heavy braking at high speeds before brake fade starts to kick in.

This discussion is about emergency stopping distances. That can be improved by putting more sporty, more street orientated tires on the Cybertruck. Better brakes won't move the needle at all when it comes to how quickly the Cybertruck can stop.

Until you change your tires (or whatever hardware), your behavior has to be sensible with what you're actually driving, and not driven by some dysphoria of expectations that don't align with reality (which in no way implies anything "wrong" with the hardware, BTW). The mind is more flexible than physical objects, but it takes a continuing conscious effort.

Those who want to make physical changes have a whole different batch of considerations. Like a line from Hippocrates (although not actually in the oath): first, do no harm. Given how easily unintended consequences can be overlooked, that's not trivial.

I favor staying safe, knowing your abilities, letting reality rather than expectations guide you, etc.

That's not limited to stopping distances, either. There are some exit ramps I know very well, having driven them thousands of times. In a sports car or even a light SUV and under good conditions, I might take them faster than in a CT, notwithstanding that the CT's handling and center of gravity is very good - FOR WHAT IT IS. I'm not ready to push it yet, that's just too much weight for me to be sure it won't side slip in a curve (Core wheels and A/S tires on mine). So on a ramp posted 30 that in good conditions in some other vehicle I might take at 45 or even 50 if I caught the curve just right, I'm still taking it at about 40 in the CT. And in something near the edge, even little things like ride height setting (that one might forget one has changed) could make a difference.

 

[HaulingAss]

Until you change your tires (or whatever hardware), your behavior has to be sensible with what you're actually driving, and not driven by some dysphoria of expectations that don't align with reality (which in no way implies anything "wrong" with the hardware, BTW). The mind is more flexible than physical objects, but it takes a continuing conscious effort.

Those who want to make physical changes have a whole different batch of considerations. Like a line from Hippocrates (although not actually in the oath): first, do no harm. Given how easily unintended consequences can be overlooked, that's not trivial.

I favor staying safe, knowing your abilities, letting reality rather than expectations guide you, etc.

That's not limited to stopping distances, either. There are some exit ramps I know very well, having driven them thousands of times. In a sports car or even a light SUV and under good conditions, I might take them faster than in a CT, notwithstanding that the CT's handling and center of gravity is very good - FOR WHAT IT IS. I'm not ready to push it yet, that's just too much weight for me to be sure it won't side slip in a curve (Core wheels and A/S tires on mine). So on a ramp posted 30 that in good conditions in some other vehicle I might take at 45 or even 50 if I caught the curve just right, I'm still taking it at about 40 in the CT. And in something near the edge, even little things like ride height setting (that one might forget one has changed) could make a difference.

For onramps, I start at double the posted speed and add 10 mph.

Seriously though, every vehicle I've ever driven has different limits, and different kinds of limits. They also behave very differently at those limits. The only way to tell where the limits are, and how a particular vehicle behaves at those limits, is to take it to the various limits. While I don't recommend doing this on public roads, I also don't always follow my own recommendations. ?

The Cybertruck is actually much easier to drive at or near the limits than any Corvette I've ever driven (because the Cybertruck has more balanced weight distribution and pretty incredible electronic stability controls that will cover for a lot of driver error). You can learn the limits by taking non-optimum lines through a corner and tighting up the radius when you don't need to tighten the radius. A lot of people will still get in trouble doing this. Whatever you do, don't do it to show off or around other people or traffic! You could kill someone if you make a bad decision.

 

[rlhamil]

I think truth in advertising might have you change your handle to NuckingFutz.

But as long as you're nowhere near me or anyone I know when you're testing the limits, that's your business.

I guess I'm a little more conservative. Also lazier, I don't want to test _my_ limits all the time. As the years go by, I know they're there, and testing them isn't so much fun anymore. Heck, haven't even staked out a place to try launch mode, in nearly 4 months.

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