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Just 2 more cents... many people add 'towing mirrors' to tow large trailers. Nothing says you HAVE to use cameras. :)

Fretting madly here. When will I get my hands on it?
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Regardless of mirror or camera, I hope blind spot visibility over my shoulder is good.
 

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Well, looks like you can reach out the window and clean the camera as well.
If you can reach it all the way on the fender up there. I am just reminded of the bad experience here in MN with backup-cams. They are always dirty in the winter due to the spray that accumulates on the back of the car. I have heard Tesla side cams get covered here as well. Sure, you can wipe it off with your finger in a second, but you don't realize its dirty until you get in and are already driving. So its useless until your next stop where you forget again...
 

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Imagine if there was a thing called a wide angle lens that would extend the field of view?
Not the same. No wide angle can see around a trailer that is wider than the position of the camera. Tow a max width trailer or boat sometime and you will see why its important.
 

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Not the same. No wide angle can see around a trailer that is wider than the position of the camera. Tow a max width trailer or boat sometime and you will see why its important.
your extended mirrow does not see around the trailer. and yes a widw angle lense will give you that view
 

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If you can reach it all the way on the fender up there. I am just reminded of the bad experience here in MN with backup-cams. They are always dirty in the winter due to the spray that accumulates on the back of the car. I have heard Tesla side cams get covered here as well. Sure, you can wipe it off with your finger in a second, but you don't realize its dirty until you get in and are already driving. So its useless until your next stop where you forget again...
Oddly enough, when I get into a vehicle, and before I start driving, I check that I can see out my windows and with my mirrors. But I suppose I might forget all about seeing anything outside the vehicle if some of the views were camera-based instead. I mean, it's not like I could just look up and see if the cameras were blocked before I started driving, right?
 

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The truth is there are many little things that are radically different about driving a Tesla. Things that take you about 5 miles of driving to get accustomed to, like single-pedal driving/rarely using the brake. Mirrors versus cameras, probably not really much of a thing...........but we'll see.........
 

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your extended mirrow does not see around the trailer. and yes a widw angle lense will give you that view
A "wide-angle" lens expands the viewing angle of the camera. It would not replace having extended mirrors. If you draw a straight line from the mirror location to the edge of the trailer, that's your max viewing angle. If you extend the mirrors further from the body, as many who tow do, then you can see more of what is behind the trailer. It's not possible to bend light around the trailer with the optics of the camera.
 

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It's not possible to bend light around the trailer with the optics of the camera.
Shue it is possible. Just drag a black hole behind your trailer. 😉

Maybe the solution is a rear camera mounted on the trailer connected via radio waves to the CT.
 

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The whole mirror thing with a motorized vehicle is an artifice anyway, we can do better...........
 

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The trailer thing has already been solved...stop thinking last century. ;)

Invisible Trailer
https://www.gmc.com/gmc-life/trucks/trailering-enhancements-for-sierra

The vantage point for the cameras to make that work are out wide on the rear view mirrors (which are extendable even wider for trailering):

"Trailering camera system
GMC’s new dealer-available accessory trailering camera system is compatible with 2014-18 Sierra 1500 and HD truck equipped with the DPN- or DQS-code trailer mirrors. ... It features three cameras: two side-view cameras and one for the rear of the trailer. The side cameras are integrated with the trailer mirror housings, offering a view of the sides of the truck and trailer. "

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I can't speak to the 3 guys from Canada or the one from Switzerland. To you guys in the USA though, keep dreaming! Your new CT will have mirrors as that the law here, and I don't see the DOT changing that anytime soon.
 

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Not the same. No wide angle can see around a trailer that is wider than the position of the camera. Tow a max width trailer or boat sometime and you will see why its important.

you my friend are the one bending light is you think your 12" mirror extention sees behind your trailer.
 

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you my friend are the one bending light is you think your 12" mirror extention sees behind your trailer.
I don't want to see behind the trailer so much as alongside it. Specifically where are the wheels in relation to the curb and other obstructions when low speed cornering in parking lots, charging stations, and driveways. Or where is back corner of the trailer in relation to the adjacent vehicles when backing it into a parking spot.

On the highway, I like to see what I am side-swiping in that blind spot alongside the trailer when I change lanes.
 
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