NPS Definition of 4WD vs CT Off-road Mode

[CyberGus]

they're not going to know one way or the other what it's specs are

“Son, you know this thing will rust and catch fire, right?”

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[mongo]

“Son, you know this thing will rust and catch fire, right?”

Um, you do know rust and fire are both oxidation, right?
--Things not to say back
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[Crissa]

I don't know why they care. If someone gets stuck, fine them, if they don't, why do they care?

Stupid rules.

Um.... Have you met many government agents? Especially those out on the loose with very little public oversight?

They've always been fine. It's the people in the office or the officers not far from the donutery which have given me troubles.

-Crissa

 

[mongo]

I don't know why they care. If someone gets stuck, fine them, if they don't, why do they care?

Stupid rules.


They've always been fine. It's the people in the office or the officers not far from the donutery which have given me troubles.

-Crissa

Injuries and death in a park is not good. Nor is tearing up the landscape.

From the attachment:

Four wheel drive vehicles provide the minimum necessary mechanical advantage to negotiate these types of road conditions and obstacles. Often times tire chains, a winch, or another vehicle(s) is necessary to safely travel these backcountry roads. Visitors who become stranded in the backcountry along these roads may incur property damage and/or suffer personal injury.

SEUG's Routine Maintenance Plan for Unpaved Roads outlines that backcountry roads will be maintained to a standard which allows rock protrusions between six and nine inches high. Standard two wheel drive vehicles do not provide sufficient clearance to avoid road obstacles higher than six inches. Therefore, operators of low clearance vehicles are more likely to drive off road to avoid these obstacles, resulting in damage to plants and sensitive desert soils, road erosion and road widening.

CONCLUSION

Four wheel drive vehicles generally have higher clearance and the drive train capability to negotiate road obstacles on backcountry roads within Arches and Canyonlands national parks. This capability enhances visitor safety and resource protection. Therefore, four wheel drive motor vehicles are required on the following roads:

 

[CyberGus]

They've always been fine. It's the people in the office or the officers not far from the donutery which have given me troubles.

I've rarely had trouble with bureaucrats or law enforcement, but found out the hard way that Customs officials are entirely humorless.

 

[Crissa]

Injuries and death in a park is not good. Nor is tearing up the landscape.

From the attachment:

And it should be on the people who get stuck to pay the fines.

And literally locked axels are tearing up the roadbed, that's how they work to gain traction.

This is the type of regulation which works against innovation.

-Crissa

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