Wearing Hat 🧢 while using FSD

[mongo]

I'm tall wear a hat and sunglasses and have hardly had any prompts to take the steering wheel. My head is usually pointed straight ahead. The only time I see it get fussy is if I'm looking at the screen for too long or I bring my phone into view.

Yeah, also tall and had one hat induced wheel torque request. Slight brim adjustment cleared that up. I think my gaze shifted lower at night when only things visible were in the low beam pattern.

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[Netwizzerd]

I’m having the exact experience as the OP, and also received my first and only strikeout while wearing a hat.
Cool thing is it tells you on the screen that attention monitoring is degraded or disabled, and specifically tells you it’s because the driver is wearing a hat.

It’s a simple geometry issue at play - if the camera can’t see your full face it can’t tell if you’re paying attention.
The placement of the driver monitoring camera in the CT is a definite downside vs a camera residing in the screen or in the (non existent) gauge cluster area.

I’ve found that tilting the brim of my hats up, or flipping the hat around backwards, fixes the constant nags.
Honestly neither are great solutions. A lot of “truck guys” wear hats. Flat brim, cowboy, bucket, etc. As the non-FS CT rolls out wide this might become more talked about. Not sure if Tesla can solve for this like they did the sunglasses nag.

 

[TyPope]

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[Pops]

I totally understand that this can be a frustrating experience when you're first learning how to use FSD. You will need to modify your natural behavior to suit what FSD expects. It's not huge changes but you have to make them or you will get the strikeouts.

Things you need to learn that I found frustrating at first:

1. How much to tension the wheel to remove the alert but not so much as to disengage FSD.
2. How long you're allowed to look away, even if it's just at the main screen or the side mirrors.
3. Resting one arm on one side of the wheel will prevent it from prompting you. It just needs a little weight.
4. If you absolutely need to use your phone for any reason, it's better to disengage FSD or block the camera momentarily. I use a camera shutter for this.

 

[GuyV]

Wow... it asked for pressure to the wheel? I wonder if that's caused by it not seeing your eyes? I haven't once had it ask for wheel pressure. I'm interested in the formula for what causes that.

I've had no problems, almost always wear a hat while driving because I love the windows open.

 

[jookyone]

Stay off the phone. Number one nag.

 

[Gaximus]

Mine switches to wheel pressure at least once every time I drive. If I look at the screen to long, glance at my phone. I think how it works, is it checks for attention awareness every X amount of seconds, and if at that time it catches your eyes not on the road, then steering wheel pressure.
This is irritating because the whole reason for vision awareness is to give you a warning and say “Pay attention “. But I haven’t got anything like that, just straight to defaulting to wheel pressure. Which means I can just put my finger on the steering wheel and play with my phone the whole time. Defeating the purpose of awareness checks.

 

[mongo]

Mine switches to wheel pressure at least once every time I drive. If I look at the screen to long, glance at my phone. I think how it works, is it checks for attention awareness every X amount of seconds, and if at that time it catches your eyes not on the road, then steering wheel pressure.
This is irritating because the whole reason for vision awareness is to give you a warning and say “Pay attention “. But I haven’t got anything like that, just straight to defaulting to wheel pressure. Which means I can just put my finger on the steering wheel and play with my phone the whole time. Defeating the purpose of awareness checks.

Weird. On ours if I look away I get the flashing pay attention warning
Only when my hat blocked my eyes (which was at night) did it switch to steering wheel torque.
So maybe when you are looking away, it can't register your eyes at all?

 

[Gaximus]

Weird. On ours if I look away I get the flashing pay attention warning
Only when my hat blocked my eyes (which was at night) did it switch to steering wheel torque.
So maybe when you are looking away, it can't register your eyes at all?

I've never got the "Pay attention warning" (or if I did I wasn't paying attention, ?). I need to check my settings, maybe I'm missing something.

 

[mongo]

I've never got the "Pay attention warning" (or if I did I wasn't paying attention, ?). I need to check my settings, maybe I'm missing something.

I'm referring to the blue flashing, no idea what the wording is...
Maybe it does say tug the wheel...

 

[R2B2]

Anyone try putting a piece of tape over the camera?

 

[Ray in montana]

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Wow... it asked for pressure to the wheel? I wonder if that's caused by it not seeing your eyes? I haven't once had it ask for wheel pressure. I'm interested in the formula for what causes that.

Mine did the same. I was a bit confused when asked for slight pressure to the wheel. I got two strikes. Haven't used it since. Same issue with hat. This was on a two lane hiway and zero traffic.

 

[Ray in montana]

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I usually wear a flat brim hat with sunglasses with FSD. While it has asked me for wheel pressure before, it's a rarity compared to no warnings. Have you tried another hat or hat type?

I was not wearing sunglasses or a hat and it still asked for pressure on the wheel.

 

[wtibbit]

I usually wear a flat brim hat with sunglasses with FSD. While it has asked me for wheel pressure before, it's a rarity compared to no warnings. Have you tried another hat or hat type?

Found a hat that works…

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