"Wolverine Cybertruck"

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No one runs wheel spacers will doing any serious off-roading. It's literally the worst idea.

Also wider wheels / offsets will require after market fenders at a certain point for full articulation which will be a problem given the body type.
I would rather just get wheels with the proper offset, and agree that spacers are not good for off roading. My experience is with Jeeps





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The smaller truck will not want to be wide to fit into old-world places.

-Crissa

The cargo bed might get shortened to 5-5.5ft


Ford Ranger (UK)
https://www.ford.co.uk/content/dam/guxeu/uk/documents/feature-pdfs/FT-New_Ranger.pdf
Double Cab Limited
overall length 5359 mm
overall width (without mirrors) 1977
Load box length (at floor without bed liner) 1613 mm (5.3 ft)
Loadspace between wheel arches (withoutbedliner) 1139 mm ( 44.8 in / 3.74ft)

Toyota Hilux (UK)
https://www.toyota.co.uk/new-cars/hilux/
Invincible X - 4 Door Double Cab
Exterior dimensions
Exterior length (mm) 5325
Exterior width (mm) 1900
Bed Deck length (mm) 1525 ( 60 in / 5ft)
Bed Deck width (mm) 1540 ( 61 in / 5 ft) * between walls not wheel wells?


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Gimme a Hilux without the silly shortened bed, please. It's on the menu. (and why it's the best selling - they compile all the sub-models into one sales figure.)

-Crissa
 

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I would preferr the CT to be licensed (in Germany) as a (light duty) truck.

To achive that the "cargo bed length" must be longer than the length of the "passenger compartment", and seperated of course.
A Wolverine "fun" truck with a "short bed" is not a suitable solution.

At the moment BEV are road tax exempt for some years..... but that will change, since more tax revenues are needed in the comming years.

Trucks / Commercial vehicles have, and hopefully will be in the years to come, lower taxed than passenger cars. This is a widely used practice in the EU.
e.g. Chevy K1500 with 6.5 TD engine licensed as a truck is >1300 $US cheaper (per year!) in road tax then licensed as a car.
Multiply that by 20 years of road life span...
The only draw back : No trailer towing on Sundays ...... I can live with that.
A passenger car licence (Class B) is enought to drive light trucks up to 3500kg (BEV even higher).

As for pedestrian safety concerns, the airbag solution should do the trick.
It would also improve the survivability in other accidents (win win solution).
 

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Gimme a Hilux without the silly shortened bed, please. It's on the menu. (and why it's the best selling - they compile all the sub-models into one sales figure.)

-Crissa
Too in EU, Middle East and Asian markets Hilux rules. Wolverine CT-X needs to grab Hilux’s DAKAR trophy with its SS cold E grip paws. Where Baja 1000 is just bragging rights in the US, EU buyers follow mfgrs DAKAR success.
 

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Norwegian with CT preorders here. I don’t want the smaller Wolverine, and I hope the CT will get sold here (we have many harmonized laws with the EU but are not in the EU). We do have crazy EV incentives, some of the most future proof laws for FSD in Europe, and the gov aims for us not to be able to buy new ICEs after 2025. There are plenty of preorders too I think.

As has been discussed the size is of no concern in Scandinavia (and probably Europe). And I just can’t see Tesla ditching crumple zones and pedestrian safety on the US version of CT either. Tesla has always touted its cars as the most safe cars ever in the world.

I do think they will fulfill orders in the US market first though as that’s the no 1 truck market, the market it is designed to penetrate, and where its factory is.

The Wolverine is a shelf project with no timeline, and will end up quite a different car to the CT I think.
 
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