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Money talk! I am sure he thinks there is all he could do for Tesla. Rivian is the one that needs his help, fair game. I don't think he could be as successful at Rivian then at Tesla. Rivian is not a well structure process. All good though. When the leader move on, there is another leader ready to prove better. besides, Elon is on Tesla team, and that all it matters. Best of luck to him. Now Tesla knows how much he his service is worth.
 

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Money talk! I am sure he thinks there is all he could do for Tesla. Rivian is the one that needs his help, fair game. I don't think he could be as successful at Rivian then at Tesla. Rivian is not a well structure process. All good though. When the leader move on, there is another leader ready to prove better. besides, Elon is on Tesla team, and that all it matters. Best of luck to him. Now Tesla knows how much he his service is worth.
Maybe run your English through ChatGPT in the future? But bottom line is right; Rivian needs this expertise, desperately, and of course best wishes to his future growth wherever it may be. Let's all hope that the Cybertruck raw materials supply chain is secure.
 

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A few things this story doesn’t elaborate on, because it doesn’t know:

1. The actual history of Akkari “quitting” - departures of folks this senior are rarely one-sided surprise departures, and can often be framed as “quitting” when the company is the one seeking the separation (see 2. Below)

2. As senior as he was, I can’t imagine Akkari wasn’t subject to restrictions on his ability to join competitors; the way out of that is through agreement/waiver by Tesla - often times a term agreed up when the parties are looking to separate amicably (or cleanly)

In all, for folks this senior, leaving and joining a competitor is not like “quitting” a salaried employee individual contributor role. It’s possible he’s showing up at Rivian, and allowed to frame this as “quitting,” only because he was asked to leave and Tesla is smoothing his path on paper.

I don’t know this any more than the outfits sensationalizing the “quitting” narrative. But I do know the “quitting” narrative alone isn’t sufficient to explain the dynamics here.
 

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A few things this story doesn’t elaborate on, because it doesn’t know:

1. The actual history of Akkari “quitting” - departures of folks this senior are rarely one-sided surprise departures, and can often be framed as “quitting” when the company is the one seeking the separation (see 2. Below)

2. As senior as he was, I can’t imagine Akkari wasn’t subject to restrictions on his ability to join competitors; the way out of that is through agreement/waiver by Tesla - often times a term agreed up when the parties are looking to separate amicably (or cleanly)

In all, for folks this senior, leaving and joining a competitor is not like “quitting” a salaried employee individual contributor role. It’s possible he’s showing up at Rivian, and allowed to frame this as “quitting,” only because he was asked to leave and Tesla is smoothing his path on paper.

I don’t know this any more than the outfits sensationalizing the “quitting” narrative. But I do know the “quitting” narrative alone isn’t sufficient to explain the dynamics here.
This is exactly how it works and was thinking the same thing.
 


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I wouldn’t read too much into the article that states potential cyber truck delay because a supply chain person is moving on; the supply chain is not tied to individuals, it’s tied to the company, the products, the contracts and procurement departments which at this stage, definitely have some built-in redundancies as it relates to personnel

people acting like this is Jerry Maguire
 

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Moving from Tesla to Rivian would seem to be the opposite of a good career move. Perhaps the many Cybertruck delays are at least partially due to poor supply chain management.
 

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I’m frankly surprised he was not held to a non competition clause by Tesla. Maybe he was and it expired ?
 


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I actually meant it more from the standpoint when Jerry (Tom C) left the old firm and was trying to bring clients with him.

nothing like this, in corporate supply chain environments
No question there’s relationships to leverage, etc. etc.
but to imply cybertruck delay at preproduction stage because of one person moving out is pretty baseless, and irresponsible reporting
 

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We saw a couple of guys at investor day who worked at the coalface, to me looked keen as mustard .. two proud guys who went through the spin cycle and got through with flying colours.

Where was this guy during that part of the presentation? Not wishing to draw a long bow, at least it seems these other guys are able to hold the fort... and the real brains on top (Musk) is still there.
 

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I think the vertical integration covers the employees too. Tesla has half a dozen people that know how to do that danice. One leaves to a competitor. Remember the competitor can’t afford as large dance floor right now but they want to get there. This is the time to start getting the big dance floor ready to lay so they can have it. I say, no skin off Tesla’s nose.
 

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Alternate subject line: Chicken Little reports the sky is falling.
 

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Noncompetes extremely difficult to apply to California employees - I believe they may be completely non-enforceable.
It’s a good point, and with rare exceptions they are unenforceable in CA. Most of those exceptions don’t apply here.

One exception that could apply, now that Tesla is HQ’d in TX: because this guy was senior, if he was represented by counsel in negotiating his employment agreement (or an amendment thereto), and in that agreement the parties selected TX law as governing and TX the forum for adjudication.

A possible, but maybe unlikely, scenario, if Tesla’s employment counsel aren’t savvy.

In any event, contrary to my prior post, it does make it more likely he indeed up-and-“quit” … even if that means he saw some writing on the wall.
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