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My model 3 has served me well 3 years in a row now.
Is it AWD? RWD? What size wheels? What kind of tires?

I saw a report from a M3 owner in a cold environment who spoke well of his M3 even though it was just RWD. I don't remember what kind of tires he had on it.
 

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Not at all. In the winter they have a winter test site in North America (Delta Junction Area, AK) and in the summer they have to move winter testing to the Southern Hemisphere. Tesla never stops testing their vehicles.

In May Tesla released photos of the Cybertruck being winter tested in the Northern Hemisphere:

Tesla Cybertruck Goes Snow Drifting During Winter Testing as Production Nears (autox.com)

There's always plenty to do, Model 3 Performance didn't even get Track Mode software update for something like a year after I bought mine. Winter conditions are necessary to continue to fine-tune traction control systems and anti-lock brakes. Furthermore, with four wheel steering and fully adjustable ride height, that testing is going to take even longer.

I want Tesla to test the crap out of Cybertruck and keep testing it in all conditions, even after it enters production. Some people try to turn this into a negative, but that's a pretty funny way to interpret the facts.
It's a good point that Tesla never stops testing their vehicles. The Model Ys sold this month will be different than the Model Ys sold next month because they constantly change and improve and test new things.

So it makes sense that they would be constantly testing to ensure that none of the changes had negative side effects.
 

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I'm actually surprised your grid is holding up so well here. It's quite common to see equipment and network failures at plus 100'F, especially after a few days at that temperature
In 2011, Austin had 74 days over 100° … May 20th through September 30th had less than 15 days below 95°

our lakes looked like the surface of the moon

But the air conditioning kept blowing
 

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And Cook Strait looks like it would be a good spot to test that alleged sea worthiness. (I don't actually believe it will be sea worthy)
 


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Here's driving a land rover into the 747.
 

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Cybertruck being offloaded at New Zealand airport for winter testing.

Test location will be the Southern Hemisphere Proving Grounds - https://www.shpg.co.nz/


"Winter in America is cold" ( Doug Ashdown )
Tesla: Winter in New Zealand June/July, coz it's _PERRRRRRFECT_?
 

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Is it AWD? RWD? What size wheels? What kind of tires?

I saw a report from a M3 owner in a cold environment who spoke well of his M3 even though it was just RWD. I don't remember what kind of tires he had on it.
Rwd 2020. Nokian winter tires. I live in Canada it can get pretty cold here. I keep it plugged in overnight. No issues in 3years
 

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You didn't lose much battery capacity?
we drove 900 km in -20c and I was impressed how less battery we lost than I expected. definitely more than summer driving, but there was no concern over range to the next charger.
 


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we drove 900 km in -20c and I was impressed how less battery we lost than I expected. definitely more than summer driving, but there was no concern over range to the next charger.
that’s really impressive

on one hand, the Lightning’s cold weather loses seem more significant, reading only reports from forum members who live further north. (That said, several such reports would later relay that they didn’t precondition or know what it was - maybe an artifact of of vehicle that drew in lots of first time EV buyers.)

on the other hand, there are the reports that Tesla’s EPA range tends to be more optimistic in the first place.

which is to say: I’d like to see a graph that plots EPA-stated max range vs cold temp effects. Does Tesla somewhat “hold steady” for users only compared to their real world range expectation, which is standardly well below EPA, while Lightning users standardly get near EPA range, unless/until it’s cold?

Im sure Tesla is better at handling the cold, due to heat pump, being a ground-up platform.

But curious if there’s other static in the system, and the apples-to-apples comparison

Just like I’ll be curious how a 3mm SS vehicle does with the cold - seems, purely from my armchair, to be a significant cold sink to have to warm.
 
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that’s really impressive

on one hand, the Lightning’s cold weather loses seem more significant, reading only reports from forum members who live further north. (That said, several such reports would later relay that they didn’t precondition or know what it was - maybe an artifact of of vehicle that drew in lots of first time EV buyers.)

on the other hand, there are the reports that Tesla’s EPA range tends to be more optimistic in the first place.

which is to say: I’d like to see a graph that plots EPA-stated max range vs cold temp effects. Does Tesla somewhat “hold steady” for users only compared to their real world range expectation, which is standardly well below EPA, while Lightning users standardly get near EPA range, unless/until it’s cold?

Im sure Tesla is better at handling the cold, due to heat pump, being a ground-up platform.

But curious if there’s other static in the system, and the apples-to-apples comparison

Just like I’ll be curious how a 3mm SS vehicle does with the cold - seems, purely from my armchair, to be a significant cold sink to have to warm.
on the drive home from that trip..... snotty from covid infection, I wasn't concerned at all about the range. and yes it was still cold ie -20c.
 

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I live in a cold climate (regularly below -20F) and I would say my MY complains MUCH less than my ICE vehicles in cold. No cold oil and lead acid starting battery to struggle to start the engine. Just tap the stock and start to move.

The only down side is the battery drain to keep the battery warm when parked. No problem when plugged in/in my garage, but takes some extra planning when overnight on trips.

There are pros/cons to EV's in the winter but in my family we fight over who "gets" the Tesla.
I’m interested to know, is your Model Y and older one with the NCM battery, or a newer one with the LFP battery?
 

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I’m interested to know, is your Model Y and older one with the NCM battery, or a newer one with the LFP battery?
Its a newer one, with an NCM battery :) (both are currently being made, but LFP is not in the USA on the MY yet, but there are hints its coming).

To be more specific it is a 2022 MY LR made in Texas (received in Oct 2022) with 2170 NMC pack.
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