OFFICIAL 2024 Cybertruck Pricing, Specs, Mileage/Range, Dimensions, Weight, Info

[davelloydbrown]

I paid nearly $70k for my F150 back in 2016, that was 8 years ago and Ford sells a lot of Platinum and Limited every year; top trims, not to mention boat loads of Raptors. I wouldn't underestimate what buyers are willing to pay for something as unique as a Cybertruck or a CyberBeast

I guess I am spoiled, I bought a silverado at the bottom of the recession in 2009 when no one was buying trucks for 28 K (including taxes) in Canadian dollars!

Sponsored

 

[cvalue13]

sure, cut the range by 30-40% to increase the range

OEMs like Hummer do it all the time

Yes, exactly. A re-engineering of some fundamentals structural parts and design outcomes. Then you only have to re-engineer the production line fundamentals.


name one example

otherwise I’ll let @JBee guide that discussion

 

[cvalue13]

Therefore a stacked design would not affect the packs structural ability.

I’m convinced that’s not exactly true - again will let @JBee guide that discussion

They could likely find a way to add strength with an additional layer.

Could they? By designing a some entirely different pack? Sure, maybe - but just adding“stacking” the pack design they’ve built isn’t the long and short of it

The truth is that Tesla has very much changed its stance on range since the CT was revealed in 2019 and they are thinking why make a huge manufacturing effort to make a change to the production

well, we’re in agreement there - insofar as I think it’s very possible that Tesla has meant what it has said over the past few years regarding a philosophical shift towards range/packs

but as for the manufacturing cost/efforts points, maybe we’re merely in violent agreement but describing that same reality two different ways

because I’ve been saying “they can’t just do a double stack” to mean, and because, it would require such deep re-engineering of the truck (and production line) that it’s commercially repugnant

setting aside the pack Engineering issues, the only envelope-level possibility is what you’ve described: make it a pot/belly under the truck that just droops down between the wheel wells, eating not just ground clearance, but likely also aero, etc.


the truth of all this, again, I think is pretty clearly evidenced in inference by both

(1) the offer of the extender, plus

(2) a preview of a 2025 single motor offering, but no preview of any future long range variant.

Tesla has no plans to offer that configuration native. And so, the engineered a truck (and line) that cannot be merely “altered” to achieve it - regardless of whether motivated by philosophy, commercially repugnant outcomes, or both.

 

[cvalue13]

wait, I did? Where?

it’s not only $16K, it also chews up easily 50% or more of the utility of the bed (quite aside from the linear inches of footprint it takes up), it crams down payload and tongue weight, will affect braking and handling (though it might improve speed), might affect ride quality, AND it’s not like it’s reasonably installed/removed for one-off use

That said, given all the above and the pricing, I don’t think Tesla will produce many of these, and there’ll be just as few people whose use case justifies spending a total of $96,000 on a dual motor+extender


I think more options is good. I don’t know that this is a viable option for many

 

[JBee]

When you see the steer by wire in the $25k Tesla you won't be able to say it was the reason. Same with the 4WS.

They are simply battery constrained.

That is all, all the rest is made up.

 

[JBee]

There are various reasons a double stack doesn't work with a structural pack.

Note the Hummer EV is NOT a structural pack and is heavy as a result.

You can find out more about it here:

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...battery-pack-explained-how-does-it-work.9731/

 

[Variable556]

It put a burr under my saddle for a couple minutes too.lol

I told myself to just write it off as them not meaning it that way. It never even occurred to them.

 

[cvalue13]

no, I was adding (1) plus (2) as both being factors discussed, combined

 

[JBee]

You might need a new car with the couple of years you still have to wait to get a CT at all....no matter the price?

So $1000 to get one now might not even be a bad thing? Do you have to give up your position to get the discount?

 

[CyberTW]

Every single CT not rolled off the line and so not sold in the first year or two or even three brings in greater net loss. The sunk costs are already sunk. Isnt it better to sell 50% more product at 25% less revenue per unit than to either have unsold inventory or production capacity sitting idle or underused.

Every truck off the line will be sold for the next two years I guarantee..

Sponsored