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Who else thinks that with all these questions, speculations and assumtions Tesla could be a bit more transparent and let us know what's up??
There's no real need for secrecy about how many invitations were given, to who, and why. And also what's the problem with letting us know when, how many, and at what time they wil be delivered. They know. They know.....So to any TESLA employee who's listening. Give us something.
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still debating if I should pull the trigger :unsure:
I think it's got more to do with logistics and complaints than trying to be intentionally secretive. A or B? If you pick A and announce it, all the B fans rage and complain or vise versa. When it really doesn't matter in the end, sometimes it's just easier to just get it done and not make an announcement over something that you're damned if do and damned if you don't.

Tesla employees that are in the know on things often drop hints here and elsewhere.
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while Cyberbeast ordered in that tranche will be delivered “in 2024”
Correction: “EST. Delivery EARLY 2024”

What does early mean? Jan-May is the timeframe we are looking at. June is mid 2024 so it’s no longer Early.
 

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Someone needs to clarify that invited orders are different from just placing a reservation on the Tesla site. Also order from Canada already on the list? Highly unlikely.
 

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Correction: “EST. Delivery EARLY 2024”

What does early mean? Jan-May is the timeframe we are looking at. June is mid 2024 so it’s no longer Early.
Fair enough!


And possibly we’re talking only about Tesla’s delivery expectation for the first tranche/wave of orders (ie a next Foundation order email could go out with an updated guess about delivery timelines for those second tranche orders). We just don’t know if that first wave already included and satisfied Tesla’s total build plan for Foundation units, or instead only eg 1/4 of it, etc.

But what we do know is that to date, not counting the ~20ish trucks already delivered in connection with the the delivery event…

• this site’s order tracker has ~100 people with orders, ~40 being beasts and 60 being AWD​

While Tesla has to date (since ~early November) registered the VIN of:

• only 1 more production Cyberbeast unit​
• but 148 production AWD units​


So your read of “early means Jan-May” could be correct.

But another reasonable view is: why give exact months of Dec-March for the AWD, but not for the beast, if Tesla was certain it knew “early” meant Jan-May?


Who knows

??‍♂
 

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Someone needs to clarify that invited orders are different from just placing a reservation on the Tesla site. Also order from Canada already on the list? Highly unlikely.
that clarification would be good, though submissions that are clearly mistaken about this have been cleaned off the list

meanwhile, the reported Canada invite on the list isn’t the only invite we’ve seen reported:


I got a different issue . I ordered day 1 in Canada and ordered with a Canadian address and also was invited to order a foundation series . I went ahead with the order but it seems I’m locked into the USA region and shouldn’t have been invited in the first place. As its hard to contact anyone I’m just waiting for someone from Tesla to contact me . I’m located in Vancouver . My order number is in the 1127’s
So, whether Tesla has intended these invites to go to Canada (or anywhere else outside TX/CA) is one question, and whether Tesla will go through with the orders and delivery to these places once payment time comes is another question.

But despite those questions, it does appear possible that several invites strayed outside CA/TX, or far from Fremont/Austin, and that similarly a few have gone to Canada ??‍♂
 


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But despite those questions, it does appear possible that several invites strayed outside CA/TX, or far from Fremont/Austin, and that similarly a few have gone to Canada ??‍♂
thought I’d add this from another thread - basically, people seem to be (unjustifiably) assuming that the order of receiving a configuration email will dictate the order of completing purchase/delivery

But, even though we see a configuration email going to FL (or Canada), we won’t know about Tesla’s intended delivery pattern until we start to see actual deliveries:


“yeah I mean, any one guess about how this is going and why is subject to plenty of counterfactuals

I’m just looking for the guess that has the best fit to the data

And, I guess, the data just doesn’t seem to fit the idea that they’re fulfilling orders of people near mere service centers. There’s at least one in every state, and for most states several service centers.

Eg, there are 7 service centers in WA and 4 in Oregon, but this sites order tracker hasn’t seen an entry from either state - despite those being among the states with largest Tesla car purchases

Meanwhile, the nor cal vs so cal observation you make ALSO isn’t explained by the hypo that the trucks are pointed towards areas with service centers - there are plenty of those is not cal, too.

Could be an artifact of the invite process, or that there was more uptake of early CT orders in SoCal vs NorCal, or a combo.

(And separately, I know for a fact they began at least the earliest deliveries heavily weighted to CA / TX precisely to keep them close to Fremont/Austin for access reasons.)



All-in-all, here’s a possible future of these non-CA/non-TX Foundation orders: Tesla simply keeps them at the back of the delivery queue, and doesn’t delivery them until Tesla’s ready/comfortable to distribute the trucks further away from Fremont/Austin

people are ~assuming that the order of getting an invitation will dictate the order of delivery. That’s a bit like assuming the a pre-order reservation # will dictate the order of getting to configure.

It’s possible that, despite Tesla having sent and accepted Foundation configurations to places outside CA/TX, Tesla won’t be delivering to some or all of those places anytime soon.

after all, the configuration email language makes a clear announcement of where deliveries are presently anticipated to occur for now, even if configuration emails are being sent elsewhere:

Tesla Cybertruck 📊 Cybertruck SUBMITTED ORDERS Tracking List & Stats [Add Yours!] 229d5671-46cf-49a9-8e9c-34a2bd44120c-jpeg





So, where our Canada friends are concerned, or even say our other seemingly one-off state configurations are concerned:

for all we know, when it comes time to organize delivery Tesla at that point corrects an error (if there’s been one), or instead Tesla simply doesn’t prioritize their delivery for months on end


While subject to counterfactuals, quite aside from where order invitations are going, I think we’ll see the earliest deliveries going to places geographically close to Fremont and Austin … and over time as Tesla gets more confident, expanding in a radius out from there
 

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does a disservice to the level of some of us around here ?
Every day I update my wife about the latest theories of who’s getting the truck when, and when our invitation to configure might arrive, and I get the biggest eye rolls in response ?
 

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Every day I update my wife about the latest theories of who’s getting the truck when, and when our invitation to configure might arrive, and I get the biggest eye rolls in response ?
every day I tell my wife I’m working ?
 


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But another reasonable view is: why give exact months of Dec-March for the AWD, but not for the beast, if Tesla was certain it knew “early” meant Jan-May?
I think you are correct. They couldn’t guarantee a timeframe because whatever constraint they have has no understood end date for being resolved.
 

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that clarification would be good, though submissions that are clearly mistaken about this have been cleaned off the list

meanwhile, the reported Canada invite on the list isn’t the only invite we’ve seen reported:




So, whether Tesla has intended these invites to go to Canada (or anywhere else outside TX/CA) is one question, and whether Tesla will go through with the orders and delivery to these places once payment time comes is another question.

But despite those questions, it does appear possible that several invites strayed outside CA/TX, or far from Fremont/Austin, and that similarly a few have gone to Canada ??‍♂
There will always be outliers (yes, I'm being polite) in any data sampling who may not understand the original intent of the sheet to contend with. I was just surprised to see those entries. I live in California now but changed my profile address to my KS address to hopefully delay estimated delivery date just to give myself enough time to save for a bigger downpayment and have the 1st adopter kinks work itself out. Hopefully, it works.
 

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that clarification would be good, though submissions that are clearly mistaken about this have been cleaned off the list

meanwhile, the reported Canada invite on the list isn’t the only invite we’ve seen reported:




So, whether Tesla has intended these invites to go to Canada (or anywhere else outside TX/CA) is one question, and whether Tesla will go through with the orders and delivery to these places once payment time comes is another question.

But despite those questions, it does appear possible that several invites strayed outside CA/TX, or far from Fremont/Austin, and that similarly a few have gone to Canada ??‍♂
It would be a 2 hour drive to the nearest Tesla Service center for me and over an 8 hour drive to Austin. I’m guessing I’ll be closer to March for delivery because of that. I was just surprised when I got the email to order. I have been on a waitlist for solar/powerwall for years and don’t own another Tesla. I’m feeling like it’s closer to random after a filter or two of do you live in CA or TX and how soon did you place a reservation. When I placed my reservation, I ended up with 3 reservations the morning after somehow.
 

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orrr, it only seems odd to you because one of your assumptions is incorrect

hint: it’s the last four words quoted above

afterall, they’ve already told us what they’re willing to be held to: the Dec 8 order tranche said AWD ordered in that tranche will be delivered between Dec 23 and March 24, while Cyberbeast ordered in that tranche will be delivered “in 2024”

to date Tesla has registered 200 VINs, so they’ve built <than 200 units, and of those 200 VINs 90% were AWD
I stand corrected, (admittingly I'm not always on top of all the facts, my bad)
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