Getting cold feet. Vin Assigned, pickup anyday. What to do?

[Woodrick]

What are you expecting, normal and towing? My wife and I are adventurous and go places off the beaten path; I pull a 32-foot camper, and my Ram gets me where I want to go. When they get the mileage to 500 that they were aiming for, for so long, even close, then I will jump in. I may be wrong, but for most of the 4 years in development, they still had 500 showing as one option. Please let us know how you do on the mileage. Thanks, My res starts with 113

It's probably not going to be a great choice for hauling larger campers on longer trips, especially to primitive campsites. And even if the range was 500 miles, hauling a load into a primitive campsite 100 miles away, without charging on the way in or the way out will be a challenge.

But if you were heading to campgrounds with NEMA 14-50, you could go a lot further.

It truly depends on what you want to do. I used to work for a camping dealer years ago. The owner had a GMC that he used to haul his camper with. It had the regular gas tank, extra manufacturer option saddle bag tanks and a toolbox tank. I think that it was a few hundred gallons. He had me run an errand one day. I got 100 yards away and it ran out of gas in the middle of an intersection. He asked me why I didn't check the gas before I left. I had simply assumed that it had some. His response? It's too dang expensive to fill it up.

But the point of my story is that you can't expect one thing to handle all situations. He had needs and desired (of course the larger tanks mean he could buy gas in cheaper states). They did a lot of trips over 1,000 miles away hauling a camper.

I had a motorhome, aside from the 3,000 mile trek home after we bought it, it rarely went that far.

Not everyone hauls, not everyone tows, for those that tow, many just haul landscaping trailers.

It is REALLY EASY to show where the Cybertruck doesn't work. And for people who like to sling these numbers, they don't realize that there so many situations where they work so much better than ICE vehicles.
My 2500-mile trips last month were relatively nice and easy with FSD driving the vast majority of the trip.

It is much more helpful to give people examples of the roles that it WILL FILL as opposed to those that it won't.

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[CyberGus]

But if you were heading to campgrounds with NEMA 14-50, you could go a lot further.

Many campgrounds are now specifically prohibiting EV charging, or require a fee. Do your homework before you depart.

 

[George Costanza]

FSD is not worth $0 today. It actually has a lot of functionality and if I don't get it, my wife will kill me. She uses it all the time and enjoys the heck out of it.

It beats EVERYTHING else on the market today.

True. Not today but it will be soon...

 

[Woodrick]

Exactly. Which is why I’m so bummed it’s not available right now for the CTs that have already been delivered.

You probably don't realize that around September 2022, Tesla started removing the ultrasonic sensors on a number of cars. In the middle of this, a nasty NHTSA recall came in that messed up their plans. But the removal of the USS required a significant chunk of the FSD beta to have to be redone, replaced with "Tesla Vision". For those newer cars, they didn't have access to the FSD beta for about 6 months, although the lower functionality versions were available.
So this isn't the first time and I suspect that some of the later Foundation vehicles will get it. They just had to wait until there were a number of vehicles on the road to validate it's operation.
FSD tend to get release in 3-6 months intervals and I suspect that the Cybertruck may get caught in the next one (last one was before Christmas) the lower features will probably appear sooner.

IMHO.

 

[Woodrick]

True. Not today but it will be soon...

No, it does so TODAY! Nothing else is close. Nothing else will even engage on the road in front of my house. And the fully qualified Mercedes that will drive by itself does a great job on limited number if roads, when following vehicles and going less than 45 MPH

The Cruise and Waymo only work in an extremely small area, less than a few hundred sq mi and still require drivers to verify the routes are clear daily.

Name another product that will take me from a restaurant to my driveway and handle a close turn lane that was supposed to be used and stopped delivery trucks in the middle of the road.

 

[Deleted member 8371]

It's probably not going to be a great choice for hauling larger campers on longer trips, especially to primitive campsites. And even if the range was 500 miles, hauling a load into a primitive campsite 100 miles away, without charging on the way in or the way out will be a challenge.

But if you were heading to campgrounds with NEMA 14-50, you could go a lot further.

It truly depends on what you want to do. I used to work for a camping dealer years ago. The owner had a GMC that he used to haul his camper with. It had the regular gas tank, extra manufacturer option saddle bag tanks and a toolbox tank. I think that it was a few hundred gallons. He had me run an errand one day. I got 100 yards away and it ran out of gas in the middle of an intersection. He asked me why I didn't check the gas before I left. I had simply assumed that it had some. His response? It's too dang expensive to fill it up.

But the point of my story is that you can't expect one thing to handle all situations. He had needs and desired (of course the larger tanks mean he could buy gas in cheaper states). They did a lot of trips over 1,000 miles away hauling a camper.

I had a motorhome, aside from the 3,000 mile trek home after we bought it, it rarely went that far.

Not everyone hauls, not everyone tows, for those that tow, many just haul landscaping trailers.

It is REALLY EASY to show where the Cybertruck doesn't work. And for people who like to sling these numbers, they don't realize that there so many situations where they work so much better than ICE vehicles.
My 2500-mile trips last month were relatively nice and easy with FSD driving the vast majority of the trip.

It is much more helpful to give people examples of the roles that it WILL FILL as opposed to those that it won't.

I hear ya, I am even sure the amount of stuff my wife puts in the trailer matters You ever see the Lucy move the long long trailer, Lucy kept picking up Rocks from each state If you have not and you like Lucy, look it up, fun watch. Thanks for all the Info, please let me know how you do on the hauling.

 

[Woodrick]

Many campgrounds are now specifically prohibiting EV charging, or require a fee. Do your homework before you depart.

It was always dependent on the good graces of a campground owner to charge for free.

And since it is a rarity that people use campgrounds to charge, odds are that most of the issues are coming from a very select few campgrounds that are on specific routes.
Paying a normal campsite fee shouldn't be considered unreasonable.

 

[CyberGus]

It was always dependent on the good graces of a campground owner to charge for free.

And since it is a rarity that people use campgrounds to charge, odds are that most of the issues are coming from a very select few campgrounds that are on specific routes.
Paying a normal campsite fee shouldn't be considered unreasonable.

"Currently, however, a small portion of our campgrounds are set up with EV charging capabilities. It is essential to understand that EVs require constant electricity flow to charge their batteries, and the majority of our campgrounds’ electrical pedestals do not have this capability. Our current electrical pedestals were originally designed for non-continuous loads typical of today’s RV usage, and therefore simply cannot support EV charging. Plugging your EV into a traditional 50-30 amp campground pedestal could permanently damage your vehicle as well as the campground’s electrical system.

If a charging converter was provided by your auto manufacturer, it does not change the way electricity flows within the campground’s electrical infrastructure and should not be used to connect your EV to our campground pedestals."

https://koa.com/ev/0

 

[REM]

Many campgrounds are now specifically prohibiting EV charging, or require a fee. Do your homework before you depart.

I bet they couldn't get away with discriminating their services like that if someone really pressed the issue. Also, it would be seriously terrible business decision to wipe out a potential market that could end up outbooking your typical clientele lol

 

[Deleted member 8371]

It was always dependent on the good graces of a campground owner to charge for free.

And since it is a rarity that people use campgrounds to charge, odds are that most of the issues are coming from a very select few campgrounds that are on specific routes.
Paying a normal campsite fee shouldn't be considered unreasonable.

I agree, if we use we should pay Fair is fair, what's crazy! I have been camping for a long time, and the prices have gotten high; we just left a campground where they want 5000 for the year, and you pay your own electricity and not a ton of stuff for kids.

 

[CyberGus]

I bet they couldn't get away with discriminating their services like that if someone really pressed the issue. Also, it would be seriously terrible business decision to wipe out a potential market that could end up outbooking your typical clientele lol

I'm curious what case law you're using to cite "electrical discrimination"...??

Campground plugs were not intended to supply 48A continuous for hours on end. This risks damage as well as service outages to other RVers. This was learned the hard way, which is why EVs are being shunned.

 

[Woodrick]

"Currently, however, a small portion of our campgrounds are set up with EV charging capabilities. It is essential to understand that EVs require constant electricity flow to charge their batteries, and the majority of our campgrounds’ electrical pedestals do not have this capability. Our current electrical pedestals were originally designed for non-continuous loads typical of today’s RV usage, and therefore simply cannot support EV charging. Plugging your EV into a traditional 50-30 amp campground pedestal could permanently damage your vehicle as well as the campground’s electrical system.

If a charging converter was provided by your auto manufacturer, it does not change the way electricity flows within the campground’s electrical infrastructure and should not be used to connect your EV to our campground pedestals."

https://koa.com/ev/0

Corporate response. I hope that they aren't telling us that they won't allow the 3-4 air conditioners on top of the camper in Florida in the heat of summer not all run continuously.

I get their point though. They are underbuilt.

 

[CyberGus]

I hope that they aren't telling us that they won't allow the 3-4 air conditioners on top of the camper in Florida in the heat of summer not all run continuously.

RV aircon is about 1 kw.

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