JerryRigEverything: How far can the CYBERTRUCK tow 11,000lbs in Freezing Weather?

[REM]

• dead of winter
• all terrain tires
• very likely wasn't preconditioned before leaving

I don't know why we keep trying to beat this dead horse. The range and performance over time will do just like it has for every other Tesla vehicle: improve

-If you haul a lot of stuff for long distances, buy a diesel and check EVs again in about 8-10 years.
-If you have a day one or very early reservation and you take delivery, you are an early adopter.
-If you don't know what that entails, you should probably wait a year or two.

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[Crissa]

I remember pointing out when I first arrived on the forum that a more efficient truck was going to see more range loss from towing than a less efficient truck. Because air resistance.

They're making no effort to make their towing efficient. It's a brick held high up in the air.

I'm tired of these threads, they only teach us that the OP is a troll and these youtube guys are bad at towing.

-Crissa

 

[Gurule92]

This is a bad towing situation, but the other tests between 4,000 and 6,000 lbs in 40-70 degree weather have all been around 100 miles or less
Was hoping this bad winter test would net 110 and the warmer lighter tests would be in the 150+ range

I don't remember those tests. I remember the model Y towing that went pretty far that @greggertruck posted

 

[Bkb13]

So, yeah, that's not what happened.

F-150 lightning test was at 72F, and he said 90% charge would net 100 miles of range. Which, if you extrapolate, would get 111 miles from 100% to 0%. Also important to note, you cannot directly compare a 37F towing test to a 72F towing test. They are not comparable at all. So, unless he redoes the f-150 test at low temps like the rivian and cybertruck, the data is just not usable in this kind of comparison. I expect to see a 30% reduction in range in a temp of 37F vs 72F in my model Y. I wouldn't apply any extrapolation to try to fit a desired result, I would just say the F-150 test was not the same, and should be excluded from the comparison.

Another non-real world test that adds no value from a comparison perspective.

 

[Gigahorse]

Another non-real world test that adds no value from a comparison perspective.

I am ok with ignoring the F150 test. But the Rivian significantly outperformed the CT in the same towing test.......that for me is really hard to comprehend. I think we all assumed up until Nov of this year that the CT would beat the Rivian towing by a LOT, not get beat by it.

 

[Texarado]

I remember pointing out when I first arrived on the forum that a more efficient truck was going to see more range loss from towing than a less efficient truck. Because air resistance.

They're making no effort to make their towing efficient. It's a brick held high up in the air.

I'm tired of these threads, they only teach us that the OP is a troll and these youtube guys are bad at towing.

-Crissa

Agree. I have an Airstream that I’d love to hook up and test with the CT. I have a Jan-Mar delivery date, but of course would love to try it before then.

 

[Crissa]

Agree. I have an Airstream that I’d love to hook up and test with the CT. I have a Jan-Mar delivery date, but of course would love to try it before then.

Yeah!

I don't expect range will be great, but...

If an ICE truck expects to loose 40% range going at 75 instead of EPA 55; to lose another 10-20% for AT tires (more at higher speed); and 20-40% going from 70F to 20F...

Like, look up trucker forums, this is what they see. It's basic physics.

I'm starting to wonder if these youtube guys even know what they're talking about.

-Crissa

 

[Texarado]

Yeah!

I don't expect range will be great, but...

If an ICE truck expects to loose 40% range going at 75 instead of EPA 55; to lose another 10-20% for AT tires (more at higher speed); and 20-40% going from 70F to 20F...

Like, look up trucker forums, this is what they see. It's basic physics.

I'm starting to wonder if these youtube guys even know what they're talking about.

-Crissa

It’s a whole lot of echo chamber stuff. I don’t think an EV is perfect for everyone. But pulling a hummer on a flatbed in near freezing temperatures… interesting exercise, but so is seeing how far your EV can drive going 2-3 miles an hour. What’s the point?

 

[Crissa]

I'm not even sure the hummer on a raised trailer is going to be better than a giant horse trailer.

Tesla just needs to get the Semi out in massive numbers, honestly.

-Crissa

 

[Alan]

4 publicly published tests, 3 of them with videos including one from GRE.
Would say that is pretty decent info at this stage. Would love if you have more reports on the towing capabilities that gives us some hope of better range.

If you included in your post that he charged to 100% the night before and let the battery cold soak, the load was very non aerodynamic, the trailer may or may not be a piece of crap, they slowed down to 40 for only the last couple of miles then I might not think your as big of a troll as you are. You hit every thread with negative comments. You even pretend to be positive once in a while while using negative statements as truth. You seem to be here all day long so either your paid to throw shade on the cybertruck or retired and just look for things to bitch about.

 

[Gigahorse]

You seem to be here all day long so either your paid to throw shade on the cybertruck or retired and just look for things to bitch about.

Have more spare time than I would like currently due to a recent injury.

Some stuff on the truck is disappointing(rear window), some is awe-inspiring (steer by wire) and as someone waiting reservation # on the CT to be called I am just sharing and trying to digest the info in real time, like many others here. Sorry if my tone or wording was not received well.

I agree with you that the test could have done more for efficiency, pull the side mirrors, tuck things in on the hummer, drive for 50 miles then charge to 100% then do the test. Just happy we are getting some info coming in after a long 4 year wait.

 

[cvalue13]

 

[REM]

If you included in your post that he charged to 100% the night before and let the battery cold soak, the load was very non aerodynamic, the trailer may or may not be a piece of crap, they slowed down to 40 for only the last couple of miles then I might not think your as big of a troll as you are. You hit every thread with negative comments. You even pretend to be positive once in a while while using negative statements as truth. You seem to be here all day long so either your paid to throw shade on the cybertruck or retired and just look for things to bitch about.

And this isn't the only place he's throwing FUD either lol.

 

[Bkb13]

If you included in your post that he charged to 100% the night before and let the battery cold soak, the load was very non aerodynamic, the trailer may or may not be a piece of crap, they slowed down to 40 for only the last couple of miles then I might not think your as big of a troll as you are. You hit every thread with negative comments. You even pretend to be positive once in a while while using negative statements as truth. You seem to be here all day long so either your paid to throw shade on the cybertruck or retired and just look for things to bitch about.

 

[aadams1278]

I really want Cybertruck to be viable for reasonable towing. It’s frustrating that someone on YouTube can’t tow a reasonable sized boat, a reasonable distance, on rural roads at 55 mph reasonable speeds, in warm temperatures to show what occasional towing would be like for those hopeful customers who do tow but don’t tow excavators or solid concrete slabs 400 miles daily at highway speeds.

I fully agree it is disappointing that initial numbers appear to be less than stellar from Cybertruck with regard to range and charge speed. However, I would pose a different perspective that if we ignore those two factors for just a moment, the rest of the truck is pretty impressive.

Here’s why I think that may be relevant… both of those big negatives relate directly to the 4680 cells. If anyone has been paying relatively close attention since battery day, a lot of the specs they announced were based on expected future advancements and there have been hints that the 4680s are not currently achieving the specs Tesla anticipated back at battery day. Also Elon has said when giga Texas first opened the 4680 wasn’t necessary for the Texas Model Y but was necessary for Cybertruck. We now know they abandoned 4680 for Model Y because it wasn’t working well, so that’s another hint 4680s aren’t quite there yet and that hurts Cybertruck more than Model Y.

So again, yes I agree the current numbers aren’t stellar, particularly for towing, but I think Tesla/Elon made the design of the truck with a certain battery dimension because of the battery enhancements they anticipate will eventually occur for the 4680s, AND they want to keep weight/cost down. I have a hunch they rushed the truck to production quicker than they would have wanted to with respect to where 4680 development is currently and range and charging will improve as time passes. How long is anyone’s guess. (Not likely 2 weeks)

Also, it has been stated by Tesla engineers in one of the tour videos that 350kw charging would be available on Cybertruck. Whenever those superchargers get operational, just that improvement would significantly improve the charging part of the equation which is somewhere near half the battle in this case.

I think Elon is pretty well known for projecting how things will eventually be rather than how they will be on day 1. I mean Cybertruck doesn’t even have basic autopilot enabled yet and everyone knows that’s definitely going to get added. So I hold out hope it will improve at some point.

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