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On a more serious note, it's the reason I didn't buy an X. It seems like Tesla doesn't care about back seat room, the X is way too small for what is supposed to be their biggest SUV. Combine all of this with the shrunken Model 3 redesigned back seats, it's obvious Teslas aren't made for full sized adults in the back.
Astronauts only. ;-)
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Lets not forget these are the same people who "AWARD...." the Blazer EV SUV of the year and..... we know the rest. They have officially become a meme within the internet car community.
 

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Obviously the visibility question would be mute if the CT was available for poking around in most showrooms or god forbid available for test drives. Tesla needs to up their customer service game. They have gotten away with iffy service up to now only because they created an early virtual monopoly in the EV market. That is no longer true today.
 

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Lets not forget these are the same people who "AWARD...." the Blazer EV SUV of the year and..... we know the rest. They have officially become a meme within the internet car community.
To be fair to Motortrend. Ultimate car of the year for their 70 year history (as of 2019):

"We are confident that, were we to summon all the judges and staff of the past 70 years, we would come to a rapid consensus: No vehicle we've awarded, be it Car of the Year, Import Car of the Year, SUV of the Year, or Truck of the Year, can equal the impact, performance, and engineering excellence that is our Ultimate Car of the Year winner, the 2013 Tesla Model S."

"The mere fact the Tesla Model S exists at all is a testament to innovation and entrepreneurship, the very qualities that once made the American automobile industry the largest, richest, and most powerful in the world," we wrote. "That the 11 judges unanimously voted the first vehicle designed from the wheels up by a fledgling automaker the 2013 MotorTrend Car of the Year should be cause for celebration. America can still make things."

https://www.motortrend.com/features...evy-toyota-cadillac-ultimate-car-of-the-year/
 

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The comments about A-pillars obstructing visibility are harsh. Have not heard the same from forum members who have gotten theirs. Is it significant or a nothingburger?
Waaah.. I want a killer bad ass truck that can eat little buggies for breakfast but..
waaah... the A-pillar is soo big.

Please people. Some balance.
 


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To be fair to Motortrend. Ultimate car of the year for their 70 year history (as of 2019):

"We are confident that, were we to summon all the judges and staff of the past 70 years, we would come to a rapid consensus: No vehicle we've awarded, be it Car of the Year, Import Car of the Year, SUV of the Year, or Truck of the Year, can equal the impact, performance, and engineering excellence that is our Ultimate Car of the Year winner, the 2013 Tesla Model S."

"The mere fact the Tesla Model S exists at all is a testament to innovation and entrepreneurship, the very qualities that once made the American automobile industry the largest, richest, and most powerful in the world," we wrote. "That the 11 judges unanimously voted the first vehicle designed from the wheels up by a fledgling automaker the 2013 MotorTrend Car of the Year should be cause for celebration. America can still make things."

https://www.motortrend.com/features...evy-toyota-cadillac-ultimate-car-of-the-year/
Yes indeed, not too long ago when they were a respected publication, its is crazy what 3 or 4 years of wokeness can do to an institution.
 

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The comments about A-pillars obstructing visibility are harsh. Have not heard the same from forum members who have gotten theirs. Is it significant or a nothingburger?
I sat in one at a Tesla store over the weekend and it was pretty noticeable. Not a deal breaker though.
 

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I have 500 miles on my Cybertruck. The A pillar hasn't been a problem.

My range is considerably better than Motor Trend's. Mt 100% would be 366 miles. My consumption since new is at 336 wh/mi.

This is 50 to 65 degree weather,. 50/50 around town and hwy. This is including crossing two 5500 foot mountain ranges from sea level start as well as a poor dirt road with many washouts and sandy sections while gaining 4,000 ft elevation over 27 miles.
 

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The comments about A-pillars obstructing visibility are harsh. Have not heard the same from forum members who have gotten theirs. Is it significant or a nothingburger?
Absolut nothing burger!
 


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Can hardly wait to give you all a personal perspective, but I'm guessing this is a relative nothing burger. Reviewers complained about A-pillar obstruction in the Model 3. I drive with FSD engaged, so when it's released for the CT, any loss of vision from the driver's seat due to the A-pillar will be inconsequential.
This.

I hope CT gets FSD soon, before I get it, and I can use it to supplement my vision.

Esp. in the dark when its raining, I find FSD on 3 a blessing.
 

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Can hardly wait to give you all a personal perspective, but I'm guessing this is a relative nothing burger. Reviewers complained about A-pillar obstruction in the Model 3. I drive with FSD engaged, so when it's released for the CT, any loss of vision from the driver's seat due to the A-pillar will be inconsequential.
I've been driving the CT for going on 3 weeks and I can say from experience that the A-pillar will from time to time force me to shift head position to see around the pillar. But the criticism is exaggerated, imo.
 

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A few very vocal people who are used to driving vehicles from the last century, with skinny little A-pillars, cars and trucks that would routinely kill or paralyze occupants in rollover collisions, think every modern car has overly thick A-pillars obstructing visibility. People who have walked away from rollovers in a modern car/truck realize the value of crush-resistant A-pillars. Life is good. Life being able to stand and walk is even better.

People who are skilled drivers know that driving in traffic requires a certain amount of moving the head around in 3D space to form an unobstructed view of vehicles approaching from behind the A-pillars. Here's the funny thing, I can still remember my mom and dad making those same head-bobbing motions before pulling out into traffic back in the 1970's when cars had A-pillars skinnier than the wrists of an anorexic model. Probably because they knew if we were t-boned, someone would die.

I see a lot of drivers today who have lost this driving skill, probably because the consequences are not as dire (or have people just become less intelligent?). Probably a combination of both.

I welcome big A-pillars made of high-strength steel (they were mild steel decades ago) and will take appropriate measures to see around them. I've also driven plenty of vans and trucks that had no rear-view mirror (and no cameras) and never felt unsafe because of it. A good driver has awareness of what they can and can't see and takes appropriate measures. Unskilled drivers, who don't take driving for the life and death task that it is, will be unsafe drivers no matter what vehicle they are driving. Only advanced driver training or fully autonomous cars can fix that problem.
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