Mobile Poweshare Adapter! (Exclusive?)

[Woodrick]

But you can put a cord into it that does can't you?

Any outlet that they provide can have a cable with exposed pins put into it if the user decides to do that

If it is energized, it won't have exposed pins. That's just the way things are.

Sure, you can make your own suicide cord, code doesn't prevent people from being idiots.
But you aren't going to find a corporation doing so. Why would they even want to?

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[Gurule92]

If it is energized, it won't have exposed pins. That's just the way things are.

Sure, you can make your own suicide cord, code doesn't prevent people from being idiots.
But you aren't going to find a corporation doing so. Why would they even want to?

I'm not saying it will be a tesla sponsored thing. I'm pretty sure I specifically said tesla wouldnt but they couldnt stop people from doing dumb stuff or something like that. But it would be possible.

 

[Woodrick]

I'm not saying it will be a tesla sponsored thing. I'm pretty sure I specifically said tesla wouldnt but they couldnt stop people from doing dumb stuff or something like that. But it would be possible.

Why are you so entrenched in this? If you want to go kill yourself, just go plug a male-male cord into the NEMA 14-50.
But Tesla has done its due diligence on these connection points, they are sockets and don't have exposed pins.

 

[Gurule92]

Why are you so entrenched in this? If you want to go kill yourself, just go plug a male-male cord into the NEMA 14-50.
But Tesla has done its due diligence on these connection points, they are sockets and don't have exposed pins.

How am I entrenched? Lol

I'm just pointing out the possibility of accomplishing something that you said wouldn't be possible.

At the end of the day, we don't know what kind of requirements they will put on the mobile Powershare adapter. What outlets they may add. It's all up in the air. To pretend you know any different is silly

 

[Gigahorse]

But you can put a cord into it that does can't you?

Any outlet that they provide can have a cable with exposed pins put into it if the user decides to do that

Having exposed pins that are energized is called a "suicide plug" they are very illegal so no way that it can push power the other way with that plug setup unfortunately

 

[cgladue]

this mobile "Powershare" connector is nothing more then a newer mobile connector, it wont do 2 way power, there is no way tesla will make something that has a plug on it be capable of two way power unless you can swap it with a receptacle. i think its just unfortunate normalization of the branding.

 

[RollingRefrigerator]

I charge on the mobile Connector using a 14-50 at home. I have for years. Works fine for my need, I don't need a few extra amps.

But I am also skeptical they will actually be able to backfeed the mobile Connector for power share, so I bought the wall connector.

However, they were very clear in their email that powershare with a powerwall will work with any charging system:

"When using Powerwall, Home Backup is compatible with any home charging unit, but 240V charging will provide the best experience. Our recommended home charging solution is either Wall Connector or Universal Wall Connector"

Like I said I'm skeptical they will backfeed an outlet-based charger, so I am upgrading, but this is a huge omission in their email if so...

My skepticism is more about how they would implement it than the safety thing. The mobile Connector isn't live until it confirms both the outlet power is there, and the connection to the vehicle is good. Then it clicks on. I can't see how they would trick it into powering on if the only power was on the car side.

Regardless, all this smoke and mirrors with powershare is really annoying...

 

[Gurule92]

this mobile "Powershare" connector is nothing more then a newer mobile connector, it wont do 2 way power, there is no way tesla will make something that has a plug on it be capable of two way power unless you can swap it with a receptacle. i think its just unfortunate normalization of the branding.

There is a pic I posted of the old mobile connector on the first page. Since the plugs pop out, I don't see them not adding the ability to use a receptacle.

We've seen talk of outlets being added via mobile Powershare

 

[cgladue]

There is a pic I posted of the old mobile connector on the first page. Since the plugs pop out, I don't see them not adding the ability to use a receptacle.

it would be nice if they did that, but i dont think it exists yet, havent seen any photos of it

 

[Gurule92]

it would be nice if they did that, but i dont think it exists yet, havent seen any photos of it

Not yet but like autopilot and Tesla selling the 79k CT.. one day

 

[cgladue]

i think they just mean you can buy different ends to fit various types of outlets but def worth keeping an eye on what they make available.

 

[Gurule92]

i think they just mean you can buy different ends to fit various types of outlets but def worth keeping an eye on what they make available.

I can understand the hesitation to believe it but this is on the outlets section on the powershare page where they are outline the amount of power that can be output from the outlets. Then to say you can add more outlets seems kinda definitive to me but we will see for sure. They could always change their mind. Or charge an extra 20k for them

 

[Woodrick]

I think that there is a little/lot of mixing up delivery methods under the Powershare monicker.
From what I can tell, the truck actually has two Powershare points / delivery methods.

The first is vehicle to the home, which is pretty much what the extra on the Foundation Series is. It's similar to a wall connector, but is intelligent in that in the event of a failure, the truck can energize the connection and power flow to the house. Of course normally, this is power flowing to the truck.

The second, and a little confusing are the outlets in the back of the truck. These allow the truck to share power with others. And this is where, I think, the mobile PowerShare connector gets its name. It's not the NACS adapter plugging into the truck, its the NEMA 14-50 plugging in and then the NACS connector can be used to charge another vehicle.

So the mobile PowerShare only supports current flow in one direction, it's just that either end can plug into the truck for differing uses.

 

[Gurule92]

Having exposed pins that are energized is called a "suicide plug" they are very illegal so no way that it can push power the other way with that plug setup unfortunately

Agreed. Super dumb. But not impossible

 

[Gurule92]

I think that there is a little/lot of mixing up delivery methods under the Powershare monicker.
From what I can tell, the truck actually has two Powershare points / delivery methods.

The first is vehicle to the home, which is pretty much what the extra on the Foundation Series is. It's similar to a wall connector, but is intelligent in that in the event of a failure, the truck can energize the connection and power flow to the house. Of course normally, this is power flowing to the truck.

The second, and a little confusing are the outlets in the back of the truck. These allow the truck to share power with others. And this is where, I think, the mobile PowerShare connector gets its name. It's not the NACS adapter plugging into the truck, its the NEMA 14-50 plugging in and then the NACS connector can be used to charge another vehicle.

So the mobile PowerShare only supports current flow in one direction, it's just that either end can plug into the truck for differing uses.

I totally see where that logic is coming from. I do think it's nacs out though just because if you look at that highlighted section in the pic above, it specifically says mobile power share connector with outlet adapter is used to add more plugs.

It even has the same max amps as the original post indicated for the connector

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