Tesla Arson in Las Vegas

[dalton108]

https://www.thedrive.com/news/multiple-teslas-found-on-fire-at-las-vegas-service-center

The cars that are sitting here are waiting to be repaired in the collision center that is in the building behind. This is not an SC.

It’s located in a newer area of town not particularly unsafe. There are single-family homes all around this solidly middle class area.

My wife’s prior daily (model Y) has been there for days after a collision - sitting outside like this. Every owner with a car there has already been unlucky, now this.

Nobody is going to like living in the dystopian hell-scape that we’re headed toward.

You think it’s bad now; wait ‘til you see the practically feral kids that are making their way through middle school as we speak.

We will regret removing civics, arts, sports and critical thinking from our schools.

Machiavellians wanted a dumb docile group of idiots they could control; what they’re gonna get is comeuppance in the form of witless, heartless, feral, sociopaths with nothing to lose.

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[Revolution21]

These arsonists are the real Nazis !

 

[Gritted Cybe]

 

[VAF84]

Let’s be real here, it’s not arson, it’s an act of terrorism. It’s what all of the Tesla related vandalism, arson, keying, etc is at this point. Terrorizing civilians associated with a business to further their political and social aims. The justice system should approach these events as such.


As defined by the FBI: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature

 

[dalton108]

No, I’m not not a joiner so I’m not bound by requirements to use the company line. This is arson. I can also say words like climate change, and renewables, and vaccines and all kinds of stuff because unlike some of you who seem to have lost track of the meaning of the word, I’m free.

Freedom looks like not having a political party tell you what words to use and attempting to enforce the rules upon others.

It might also be terrorism, but what it is for sure is “arson” and that’s what I’m calling it. Thanks!

 

[VAF84]

No, I’m not not a joiner so I’m not bound by requirements to use the company line. This is arson. I can also say words like climate change, and renewables, and vaccines and all kinds of stuff because unlike some of you who seem to have lost track of the meaning of the word, I’m free.

Freedom looks like not having a political party tell you what words to use and attempting to enforce the rules upon others.

It might also be terrorism, but what it is for sure is “arson” and that’s what I’m calling it. Thanks!

Not sure what a joiner is, but it’s clearly terrorism. Did you read the article, one of the cars was shot at. “The suspect apparently not only set the cars on fire, but shot at least one of the cars with a gun.”

Have you been on the Tesla forums? Every other person worried about their vehicle being vandalized, superchargers being burned, Tesla buildings being attacked. It’s not an isolated pyro having fun, or a couple of teens drawing a dick on a wall. It’s having the effect of terrorizing owners, employees, and potential buyers.

It’s possible that one may be politically aligned in a way that refutes the idea that this could be terrorism.

Per ChatGPT:

The main difference between arson and terrorism lies in intent and legal classification:
• Arson is the act of deliberately setting fire to property, usually with the intent to destroy or cause damage. It is primarily considered a property crime, though it can have severe consequences, including loss of life. The motive can vary, including financial gain (insurance fraud), revenge, or vandalism.
• Terrorism involves acts intended to intimidate or coerce a population, influence government policy, or disrupt society for political, ideological, or religious reasons. If arson is committed as part of a broader strategy to instill fear or further a political or ideological cause, it may be classified as terrorism.

In legal terms, authorities determine whether an act is terrorism based on motive and intent. If someone burns down a building as an insurance scam, it’s arson. If they do it to spread fear and further an ideological goal, it may be prosecuted as terrorism.

 

[dalton108]

In legal terms, authorities determine whether an act is terrorism based on motive and intent. If someone burns down a building as an insurance scam, it’s arson. If they do it to spread fear and further an ideological goal, it may be prosecuted as terrorism.

It sure may be and I do love it when laymen try to explain the law to me. ?

As the facts develop it’s definitely starting to look more like just that. I’m just always fascinated at when we can jump to conclusions and when we can’t. Or when the most likely answer is a “false flag operation” - and there always seems to be a very particular political slant to it. And I’ll leave it right there

Here’s new info:

The suspect wore all black, and "used what appeared to be a Molotov cocktails and a firearm to conduct his attack," Korean said.

"At least five Tesla vehicles were damaged to include two of which were engulfed in flames," Koren continued.

The attacker "fired three rounds into different Tesla vehicles" and at least one un-ignited Molotov cocktail was recovered from the scene, the assistant sheriff said.

The word "RESIST" in all-caps was stray pained in red on the center's doors.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ov-cocktails-shot-las-vegas-attack-rcna196942

 

[VAF84]

It sure may be and I do love it when laymen try to explain the law to me. ?

As the fax develop it’s definitely starting to look more like just that. I’m just always fascinated at when we can jump to conclusions and when we can’t and they’re always seems to be a very particular political slant to it. And I’ll leave it right there

Here’s new info:

The suspect wore all black, and "used what appeared to be a Molotov cocktails and a firearm to conduct his attack," Korean said.

"At least five Tesla vehicles were damaged to include two of which were engulfed in flames," Koren continued.

The attacker "fired three rounds into different Tesla vehicles" and at least one un-ignited Molotov cocktail was recovered from the scene, the assistant sheriff said.

The word "RESIST" in all-caps was stray pained in red on the center's doors.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ov-cocktails-shot-las-vegas-attack-rcna196942

I’m confused by the attempt to condescend me by using the term layman. Unnecessary, but whatever.

I’m not trying to do anything but support my statements with objective facts, I thought defining these things would show I’m not just pulling stuff out of my… just to argue.

Molotov cocktails, gun, and political slogan of spray painting “resist”. Text book political and ideological motivated attack. No one is jumping to conclusion, there is just a clear pattern at this point. Pretty sure no one read this and thought, “that’s random, why would they torch a Tesla building”. Every single person who read it, based on macro events, though, “sh!t, another one? When’s this going to end?” To me that’s the difference between arson and terrorism.

 

[dalton108]

I’m confused by the attempt to condescend me by using the term layman. Unnecessary, but whatever.

I’m not trying to do anything but support my statements with objective facts, I thought defining these things would show I’m not just pulling stuff out of my… just to argue.

Molotov cocktails, gun, and political slogan of spray painting “resist”. Text book political and ideological motivated attack. No one is jumping to conclusion, there is just a clear pattern at this point. Pretty sure no one read this and thought, “that’s random, why would they torch a Tesla building”. Every single person who read it, based on macro events, though, “sh!t, another one? When’s this going to end?” To me that’s the difference between arson and terrorism.

Are you a lawyer? Because if you’re not, you’re a layman. It’s not condescension, it’s an axiomatic fact.

Are you confused about that? Because we can’t go any further if you are.

 

[VAF84]

Are you a lawyer? Because if you’re not, you’re a layman. It’s not condescension, it’s an axiomatic fact.

Are you confused about that? Because we can’t go any further if you are.

I’m good. This interaction is a bit brash for my conversational style. I’ll leave you to your thread.

 

[dalton108]

I’m good. This interaction is a bit brash for my conversational style. I’ll leave you to your thread.

You betcha. But if you can’t handle benign accurate adjectives like “layman” you’re gonna have a rough ride through life, Bud. Yikes!

Anyway as I stated above, the additional information which was not in the first article that I read and posted now notes the use of Molotov cocktails, firearms, and other things sure is starting to look like a lot more like domestic terrorism and is going to end poorly.

 

[65SoYoLO]

Arson is a terroristic act. It is meant to scare people. Simple.
Back to the subject, did the catch the guy? Can't read the story on my phone

 

[dalton108]

Arson is a terroristic act. It is meant to scare people. Simple.
Back to the subject, did the catch the guy? Can't read the story on my phone

It isn’t that simple and if the distinction didn’t matter I wouldn’t waste my breath highlighting it.

All arson is not terrorism, this is basic freshman level logic and reasoning 101.

Again I kinda need to remind you guys that all this umbrage and bloodlust does not exist when people’s sportsketball teams win or lose and they tear up the town and set all the cars on fire. It seems that if it’s the right kind of people and they’re doing it for nonsensical reasons we have a higher tolerance level and greater capacity for forgiveness.

But as to your question no; no reporting that he’s been caught.

 

[Musicurry]

No, I’m not not a joiner so I’m not bound by requirements to use the company line. This is arson. I can also say words like climate change, and renewables, and vaccines and all kinds of stuff because unlike some of you who seem to have lost track of the meaning of the word, I’m free.

Freedom looks like not having a political party tell you what words to use and attempting to enforce the rules upon others.

It might also be terrorism, but what it is for sure is “arson” and that’s what I’m calling it. Thanks!

These acts are totally terrorism; planned and coordinated acts of violence designed to intimidate and incite fear in the masses.

 

[dalton108]

These acts are totally terrorism; planned and coordinated acts of violence designed to intimidate and incite fear in the masses.

It’s starting to look more and more like it. For sure. Semantics aside, it certainly needs to stop and be prosecuted.

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