What’s REALLY Ruining Your EV Battery // Stop Stressing - The Limiting Factor

[REM]

This is another great video from Jordan Giesige with 'The Limiting Factor' to share with anyone who is hesitant about the battery longevity of a Tesla. He has brought a wealth of information for the enthusiast and professional community.

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[ChiTownCT]

For us simpletons, explain in layman's terms please..

 

[Black306]

For us simpletons, explain in layman's terms please..

High avg SOC high temps, bad.
Low avg SOC low temps, good.
Calendar aging uncontrollable, use it or lose it.

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[Gigahorse]

High avg SOC high temps, bad.
Low avg SOC low temps, good.
Calendar aging uncontrollable, use it or lose it.

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Aka if you are me in the south, and pull a trailer so need ALL 100% to get to the next supercharger. RIP battery health!

But a very nice summary nonetheless

 

[REM]

Aka if you are me in the south, and pull a trailer so need ALL 100% to get to the next supercharger. RIP battery health!

But a very nice summary nonetheless

Good use case to charge up to the amount you actually need. Though, I wonder if you really could get away with driving slower and only charging to 95% rather than 100%

 

[hemiarch]

When we got our first model x in 2016 I worried about this a lot. Free supercharging so we abused the shit out of it. Lots of 100% charges and mostly supercharging.
turns out for that particular car it was a compete nonissue. Drove it till early 2024 and range got a little haircut but the car was plenty useable and it wasn’t a massive loss.

 

[Gigahorse]

Good use case to charge up to the amount you actually need. Though, I wonder if you really could get away with driving slower and only charging to 95% rather than 100%

In some cases yes, taking it to 100% just hurts because I know it is not good for the battery, I try to schedule departure so it is at 100% no more than an hour before I go.

Two issues.
1. If you drive 55mph down here on the highway you are GOING to get rear ended
2. We all know about the CT towing range, and on days that there is a headwind in one direction, the load is especially heavy, it is cold, I have to make an extra stop, etc that coupled with the distance between some superchargers, especially if avoiding 150s and going for 250s so I don't have to sit there for two hours, makes that 5% buffer helpful.

 

[TheLastStarfighter]

Aka if you are me in the south, and pull a trailer so need ALL 100% to get to the next supercharger. RIP battery health!

But a very nice summary nonetheless

That's not what he said actually. Charging to 100% is ok, just don't leave it there.

 

[TheLastStarfighter]

For us simpletons, explain in layman's terms please..

-All batteries lose some capacity over time whether you use it or not, so use it! Mileage very little factor in wearing out your battery.
-Teslas lose much less battery capacity than other cars.
-For batteries like a Cybertruck, keep it plugged in but only charge it beyond 60-70% when you need it. Fully charging to 90-100% is fine but do it just before you leave so that the car isn't sitting there at full capacity for a long time.
-Supercharging doesn't hurt the battery at all.
-Hot temperatures are bad for the battery. If you live in a hot climate, try to keep it cool when you can.

 

[ChiTownCT]

-All batteries lose some capacity over time whether you use it or not, so use it! Mileage very little factor in wearing out your battery.
-Teslas lose much less battery capacity than other cars.
-For batteries like a Cybertruck, keep it plugged in but only charge it beyond 60-70% when you need it. Fully charging to 90-100% is fine but do it just before you leave so that the car isn't sitting there at full capacity for a long time.
-Supercharging doesn't hurt the battery at all.
-Hot temperatures are bad for the battery. If you live in a hot climate, try to keep it cool when you can.

Appreciate that!

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Good use case to charge up to the amount you actually need. Though, I wonder if you really could get away with driving slower and only charging to 95% rather than 100%

Doesn’t the law specify maximum speeds when towing?

 

[REM]

In some cases yes, taking it to 100% just hurts because I know it is not good for the battery, I try to schedule departure so it is at 100% no more than an hour before I go.

Two issues.
1. If you drive 55mph down here on the highway you are GOING to get rear ended
2. We all know about the CT towing range, and on days that there is a headwind in one direction, the load is especially heavy, it is cold, I have to make an extra stop, etc that coupled with the distance between some superchargers, especially if avoiding 150s and going for 250s so I don't have to sit there for two hours, makes that 5% buffer helpful.

If extra time spent isn't an issue, you could go slow on the highway and just outfit your truck with professional grade towing hazard LEDs and other safety equipment (but not the obnoxious stuff, of course).

What's your use case? Small business?

 

[REM]

That's not what he said actually. Charging to 100% is ok, just don't leave it there.

Only charge to 100% if you really need it, and even then make sure you don't keep it that way too long without taking a trip or burning through some battery at the sameish pace.

Physically speaking, you are still placing maximum pressure on a battery when its fully saturated. Just helps with component wear over time. These are simple things you can do to help longevity.

 

[REM]

Doesn’t the law specify maximum speeds when towing?

Yes, in the vast majority of places there are guidelines and laws that can be used against you in cases of citations, and other matters of law. Mostly goes unnoticed though.

 

[dalton108]

Doesn’t the law specify maximum speeds when towing?

Sure, but laws vary state to state. Directly in between me and where I like to go camping is a good 150 miles of UT roads where even people towing are traveling at 80 miles an hour.

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