Let's all let Tesla know we want option to set FSD max speed on the scroll wheel made available.

[georgek43]

I will be happy with any solution that allows me to use FSD at the actual posted legal speeds for each road. I’m not stuck on the previous method, but it worked perfectly, so I am advocating to have it restored. I like this suggestion for correcting the system, but I’d prefer a method to correct immediately, like we had until FSD14, and allows me to customize and slow down for road conditions, pedestrians, golf carts, parking lots, etc, like we had until FSD14.

What about a compromise? An option to correct the actual speed limit? For example, tapping the Speed Limit icon on the screen and menu shows common speed limits for the user to select. This would provide intentional feedback and if X amount of drivers consistently report the same speed limit, then the fleet will receive updates reflecting that feedback.

If there could be a compromise, how about letting the driver select the degree of autonomous driving, either the near full FSD14 version where the AI controls the maximum speed (with all the errors) or the less full version where the driver manually sets the maximum speed. That would also give the devs a trove of data on which is safe.

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[hemiarch]

What about a compromise? An option to correct the actual speed limit? For example, tapping the Speed Limit icon on the screen and menu shows common speed limits for the user to select. This would provide intentional feedback and if X amount of drivers consistently report the same speed limit, then the fleet will receive updates reflecting that feedback.

Love this idea. If there are enough data points it functions kind of like Waze. Crowd sourced info

 

[CYBERSALLYB]

I just drove to a conference yesterday about 150 miles away - I discovered that if you want to truly disengage the speed, you have to tap the break between modes, you can't just roll it down or up. I did use this to my advantage to go a little faster on the highway in Standard mode - but I still have to disengage completely when I am in a 35 mph area or school zone.

 

[Kamin]

Updated to 14.2 and found that chill drives better than sloth as sloth still panic brakes, stutters through intersections, but does go up to what it thinks the speed limit is. Unfortunately in version 13 it knew my neighborhood speed limit was 35 and now automatically assigns it 55 even through the 15 mph school zone just down from my house. Just past the school it sees the 35 mph sign and adjusts properly. A mile further where the speed limit is still 35 and there are no signs to see, it suddenly thinks it is 25 mph and slows down. Once on the 45mph stretch it adjusts properly to the speed staying at 47 in chill and not overreacting to doubts that sloth will. It is such a no brainer for them to just let us customize what the scroll wheel does and let those of us who want max speed set to have it. I'd like the options for don't change lanes, and set min and max speed. It seems such a no brainer to allow us to tell the truck what the speed limit is on a certain road and have the truck remember it.

 

[hemiarch]

Updated to 14.2 and found that chill drives better than sloth as sloth still panic brakes, stutters through intersections, but does go up to what it thinks the speed limit is. Unfortunately in version 13 it knew my neighborhood speed limit was 35 and now automatically assigns it 55 even through the 15 mph school zone just down from my house. Just past the school it sees the 35 mph sign and adjusts properly. A mile further where the speed limit is still 35 and there are no signs to see, it suddenly thinks it is 25 mph and slows down. Once on the 45mph stretch it adjusts properly to the speed staying at 47 in chill and not overreacting to doubts that sloth will. It is such a no brainer for them to just let us customize what the scroll wheel does and let those of us who want max speed set to have it. I'd like the options for don't change lanes, and set min and max speed. It seems such a no brainer to allow us to tell the truck what the speed limit is on a certain road and have the truck remember it.

It’s a confidence thing I guess. I’ve been telling bandit every day that he is smart and handsome and an excellent driver who can be anything he chooses.
Don’t let anyone ever say that I haven’t done my bit towards FSD development. It’s hard work being nurturing.

 

[neights]

General Lane selection (not when exiting or passing) via screen tap, please. Highlight it somehow for those of us with metros having 4-5-6 lanes wide.

 

[hemiarch]

General Lane selection (not when exiting or passing) via screen tap, please. Highlight it somehow for those of us with metros having 4-5-6 lanes wide.

Yes. And the ability to keep it out of the fucking HOV lane when there is only one person in the car.

 

[shopaholic]

Yes. And the ability to keep it out of the fucking HOV lane when there is only one person in the car.

Don’t they have weight sensors for seats, to see how many are in?

 

[hemiarch]

Don’t they have weight sensors for seats, to see how many are in?

Absolutely. It should be a software fix. That can be tricky with car seats installed though.

 

[peeyar]

I love the FSD 14.2 especially madmax on the free way. I have no problems with the newest FSD. I just turn on standard when its city driving. No problem with speed limits as well.

 

[Cybertruck2024]

I think that FSD 14.2 helped a lot with the speed selection. Not perfect, but better.

But lane selection is not great. If I am doing 5 over and the car in front of me is doing 4 over, the CT will happily cut off a car in the left lane doing 20 over. I'd rather it just stay in the lane, than potentially get rear ended to slowly pass a car at a speed 1mph greater. And you can't tell it to stay in the lane, it will cry like a toddler and keep trying to make the move.

Lane selection also seems worse on city streets. The truck tried to go straight in a left turn only lane 2 days ago, I had to quickly break to not go head on into traffic. Yesterday, it merged right into a lane that was going to end in maybe 50 feet, where it would've needed to re-merge left immediately during a crazy busy traffic day. If I wasn't paying attention, it was an accident waiting to happen.

 

[georgek43]

I love the FSD 14.2 especially madmax on the free way. I have no problems with the newest FSD. I just turn on standard when its city driving. No problem with speed limits as well.

I’m happy to hear no speed limit problems for you. Perhaps they’ll fix mine soon, because I was near 100% FSD before 14, now I’m below 50%, all due to incorrect speed limits. I was able to easily correct to the posted speed when the vehicle thought 45 or 55 was correct but the actual limit was 25 or 35. Now I have no choice but to disengage. It’s all about incorrect speed limit data, the driving behavior is still acceptable, maybe even better.

 

[Wraven]

Its strange to me that we all purchased/subscribed to FSD (*FULL* Self Driving) yet these demands to make it less than full self driving. While I understand the ask here and the reasons, the resolution (or demand) here isn't the path forward, there might be other alternatives though.

 

[georgek43]

Its strange to me that we all purchased/subscribed to FSD (*FULL* Self Driving) yet these demands to make it less than full self driving. While I understand the ask here and the reasons, the resolution (or demand) here isn't the path forward, there might be other alternatives though.

Perhaps I am not being clear. I truly want full self driving. But at this point with er

Its strange to me that we all purchased/subscribed to FSD (*FULL* Self Driving) yet these demands to make it less than full self driving. While I understand the ask here and the reasons, the resolution (or demand) here isn't the path forward, there might be other alternatives though.

i really do want Full Self Driving. But at this point in development there are too many speed limit errors. The vehicle drives very nicely- I just want to use it 100%. But I cannot because of the speed limit errors. I was letting it FSD near 100% in FSD13, and it was a minor effort to set maximum speed when the speed data was incorrect. But now it wants to go 10, 15, 20mph or more over the real posted limit, and now there’s no other option than to disengage. That does not promote FULL self driving. If the speed data could be error free, FSD14 would work just fine. But it is not. To make it safe and usable, either the speed limit data has to be corrected in theborigrsor the driver needs to be able to correct it on the fly. Everything else is workable. I miss FSD.

 

[georgek43]

I also hear all the hype about how the autonomous speed selection is better- but it’s definitely not. It might be OK if the speed limit data in navigation were correct- but it’s not. I was using FSD almost 100% of the time- I can no longer do that in good conscience- the vehicle drives dangerously, going way too fast even in sloth mode (what a stupid name btw for a mode that drives full speed limit)



‘’sloth“ is supposed to go the speed limit- it does, ‘from a certain point of view’ as Obi Wan said- but it goes what the navigation system thinks the limit is, not the posted real speed limits. Sometimes it appears the system will read a speed limit sign, but not often. Certainly not often enough.



I’ve asked Tesla to revert my CT to FSD13- they will not. They keep telling me FSD14 is better- it is not. I have taken lots of local trips, and 200+ mile trips on highways and interstates- I do not see a significant improvement in driving behavior over FSD13. On local streets I’m disengaging FSD14 dozens of times during each drive. and it has reverted to rapidly decelerating for vehicles at perpendicular roads as described for no good reason, but still ignores emergency vehicles. On the highway it requires far far more driver intervention on the scroll wheel to keep anywhere close to a legal or even safe speed, and often requires disengaging. Click up, click down over and over and over to toggle between modes to attempt a safe speed. On the interstates, instead of relaxing at a set speed, one must constantly monitor the car speed creeping up into ‘moving violation; territory while keeping a sharp eye out for the State Troopers to avoid a speeding ticket. How is that an improvement?



And even by toggling the drive mode, the control is imprecise, with the vehicle speed oscillating from too fast to too slow instead of a steady set speed. It’s really aggravating. A couple weeks ago my drives, whether neighborhood streets or interstates were almost stress free. I love my CT, was one of Tesla’s biggest supporters and best salesmen. That has all changed with this one removal of allowing the driver to set maximum speed. It’s really upsetting to lose a cherished part of my day. I’m looking for a workaround that does not involve trading the vehicle.



As it is now, FSD14 is dangerous, drives illegally fast and instead of increasing FSD use, it’s going to decrease it. I can no longer use FSD on 90% of my local drives because it speeds way over the limit due to incorrect speed limit data. The autonomous drive is doing what it’s supposed to do, but it’s operating on bad speed data, and the developers have taken away the ability for the driver- who is legally responsible for the vehicle- to correct the critical error of incorrect speed data. It might be doing things better behind the scenes, but in reality it goes too fast in many settings.



I don’t care that much about E2E- I can pull into my garage myself and enter and exit parking lots myself. Before FSD14 I might have used FSD in a parking lot or driveway a few times, but I could at least have set the vehicle to drive at a safe slow speed. Not anymore- it tries to do 45 in most parking lots before I frantically hit the brake.



oh, and now the car tries to stop and flashes ‘stop’ just as I begin to pull into my garage, thinking incorrectly that there is an obstacle. Never did that before.



FSD14 has only been out a short time, but I don’t think the decision to prevent the driver from setting maximum speed is going to age well. I don’t like it all. I’m hoping for an update that corrects this decision. Maybe an option to “manually set max speed” like ManMax in addition to MadMax.



Tesla sales are hurting. My primary reason to own a Tesla is the ability for the vehicle to self drive in neighborhoods and local drives, which most manufacturers do not offer. It seems Tesla has effectively withdrawn that ability from their cars and trucks. I do not think this decision is going to help sell Teslas. I hope the devs come to their senses and it’s a temporary decision.

I messaged Tesla service about these issues and was told to take it up with the Tesla Customer Support line at 877-798-3752. After an infuriating loop conversation with their bot, I was finally put in a queue to speak to a human. One hour and six minutes of horrid ‘on hold’ music later I hung up, never speaking to any one. When I messaged service again, here’s the response I got: ‘“Greetings. We regret to inform you that unfortunately this is the only source of information we have at this time…thank you for your understanding..” Actually, after paying six figures for a ‘self driving’ vehicle that’s now too dangerous to allow it to self drive, I do not understand this kind of customer service at all.

I would just like the ability to set speed manually. FSD14 speed profile management totally sucks for me. I just did a 100+ mile interstate trip. Just like in town, it’s either too slow or too fast, and rolling up or down speed profiles is just not precise enough. And then there is now the inability to correct the many many speed limit errors. FSD14 has made FSD, which is the primary reason to own a Tesla, unpleasant and mostly unusable. A month ago I was going to be a lifetime Tesla owner, but not now.

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