They used to make fun of us…

[DaBagBoy]

Until 2027 when the petroleum industry lost its grasp on the world and the pumps ran dry..

We all knew it was inevitable but not for another 30-50 years, geopolitical collapse was never in the cards for many and nothing was ever the same

hope oil can last until 2027 - in the meantime our used cars are getting more valueable
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[CyberGus]

My experience has been that people don't know my CT is actually a pickup truck until they see it with the bed open

“Oh it’s a truck”.

I get this often as well. The profile of the Cybertruck is something of an optical illusion:

It barely seems like there's room for a bed, let alone a 6-footer. But the seats are fairly forward relative to the doors. And with the tonneau closed, it looks more like a hatchback.

I do enjoy watching the expressions of awe and disbelief as I open the tonneau and tailgate simultaneously.

 

[Amuma]

With America providing all the petro for America, this is nothing but price gauging. Companies taking advantage of the situation.

 

[machmax]

Haha ya. Been back and forth to Home Depot for lumber etc. 6 TIMES people be like

“Oh it’s a truck”.

Tesla needs some PR lol

I was kind of a dick in one instance, I asked one what he thought it was. Was just dumbfounded at the same question so much

Another mistaken identity…

 

[HaulingAss]

With America providing all the petro for America, this is nothing but price gauging. Companies taking advantage of the situation.

Not really. Oil is a global market and even the US imports (and exports) plenty of oil, because refineries are engineered to run on specific grades of oil.

The laws of supply and demand, and price elasticity of supply, still apply. Capitalism works very well in a free market. In my opinion, price gouging requires price collusion between different suppliers/producers to even exist. Because the buyer can always buy from a cheaper supplier if the participants aren't colluding illegally with one another on price.

I think it's irrational when people accuse a store of price gouging, for example when every other store runs out of toilet paper and they still have a limited quantity to sell. Because the toilet paper actually becomes more valuable when in short supply. It should go to those who are willing to pay the true market value for it. This has the advantage of raising the market value of toilet paper in that locale, which incentivizes others to import toilet paper to those who need it, so supply and demand can equalize. If people didn't want it, the price wouldn't go up.

In other words, without collusion, there is no such thing as price gouging. The system is most responsive to the needs of the people when markets are free. Stores and businesses exist, not to primarily serve the public, but to profit on the difference between what the public is willing to pay for a good or a service and what they can supply it for. By competing for the right to do that, the public gets the best deal available. In times of market disruptions, you still get the best price available, but there is no rule everyone still gets cheap gas.

 

[Gigahorse]

Not looking to start anything or give CT owners a bad time, but when I drive by the gas station with guzaline at $4.56 a gallon and I know they can't see me through my tinted windows..........

 

[Fugue]

I get this often as well. The profile of the Cybertruck is something of an optical illusion:

It barely seems like there's room for a bed, let alone a 6-footer. But the seats are fairly forward relative to the doors. And with the tonneau closed, it looks more like a hatchback.

I do enjoy watching the expressions of awe and disbelief as I open the tonneau and tailgate simultaneously.

I get a lot of surprised looks when I open the tailgate and tonneau. Like they see a 6' bed with dirt and scratches and suddenly realize it's a truck.

 

[Fugue]

Another mistaken identity…

That one looks like it has extra fairings just to show off.

 

[Amuma]

Not really. Oil is a global market and even the US imports (and exports) plenty of oil, because refineries are engineered to run on specific grades of oil.

The laws of supply and demand, and price elasticity of supply, still apply. Capitalism works very well in a free market. In my opinion, price gouging requires price collusion between different suppliers/producers to even exist. Because the buyer can always buy from a cheaper supplier if the participants aren't colluding illegally with one another on price.

I think it's irrational when people accuse a store of price gouging, for example when every other store runs out of toilet paper and they still have a limited quantity to sell. Because the toilet paper actually becomes more valuable when in short supply. It should go to those who are willing to pay the true market value for it. This has the advantage of raising the market value of toilet paper in that locale, which incentivizes others to import toilet paper to those who need it, so supply and demand can equalize. If people didn't want it, the price wouldn't go up.

In other words, without collusion, there is no such thing as price gouging. The system is most responsive to the needs of the people when markets are free. Stores and businesses exist, not to primarily serve the public, but to profit on the difference between what the public is willing to pay for a good or a service and what they can supply it for. By competing for the right to do that, the public gets the best deal available. In times of market disruptions, you still get the best price available, but there is no rule everyone still gets cheap gas.

Such a capitalist response. I'm talking about the distributor where the stores get the petro from. America imports <10% of petro from the middle east with most >60% coming from North America. This is price gauging normal consumers where the investors/companies are making bank.

 

[CyberGus]

 

[devdrone6]

I have not read every post in this thread, so I will just leave this here:

Our vehicles rely on the petro industry to exist and run. And the petro industry needs electricity to run. One doesn’t exist without the other. The extremes of both technologies (EV vs. ICE) are not mutually exclusive, rather symbiotic.

 

[Strykerwsu]

some people will never learn

Back in those days that guy was fat, lol.

 

[soonerdy]

This is called “contempt prior to investigation”.

Common and human nature.

Little by little Tesla has proven these meme worshipping NPC’s wrong.

“No crumple zones!!!”… turned out to be the safest truck on the road

“Warranty voided if you take it through a car wash!!!”… it has a car wash mode to keep the wipers from turning on and the charge port from opening

“They’re rusting already!!!”… complete lie

“They’re $250,000 rich guy show off toys!!!”... The AWD was leasing as low as $729 a month. Not nothing but that’s like fully equipped minivan territory.

“Raccoons literally confuse these with dumpsters and try to break in!!!”… one instance where a guy kept food in the bed

“A YouTube guy said the bumper falls off if you tow anything!!!”… just not true

“Terrible in the snow!!!”… I’ve personally driven through 2 feet of snow like it wasn’t there. Materially better than my last truck


…Many will eventually forget their original stance. Some will continue to dig in and find any last thing

No offense but this should have been the OP

 

[soonerdy]

I have not read every post in this thread, so I will just leave this here:

Our vehicles rely on the petro industry to exist and run. And the petro industry needs electricity to run. One doesn’t exist without the other. The extremes of both technologies (EV vs. ICE) are not mutually exclusive, rather symbiotic.

I think it makes sense to produce electricity with oil and have most cars driving around without a combustible engine... why? Because it's more efficient, quieter and less smog in dense areas.

 

[HaulingAss]

Such a capitalist response. I'm talking about the distributor where the stores get the petro from. America imports <10% of petro from the middle east with most >60% coming from North America. This is price gauging normal consumers where the investors/companies are making bank.

No, because the American producers sell it to the highest bidder. It's supply and demand, common sense really. Scarcity pushes up prices, a glut of a product or service pushes prices down. That's how the system responds to what people want and need, at prices they are willing to pay. Because things aren't free. When there is a shortage of oil, it affects everyone who needs oil, regardless of where they live (because oil is a global commodity with global demand).

You say "capitalist response" as if capitalism is a bad thing. Do you know of a system that improves upon capitalism? Capitalism has brought more people out of poverty than any other economic system. Because it rewards those who provide the things people want and need. It's a very common sense way to raise the standard of living because it provides incentives to create goods and provide services. Communism doesn't do that which is why the shelves go bare and food is rationed. No incentives to work (short of avoiding punishment).

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