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FSD works by "intuition". Full stop.

As it continues to get more powerful, it becomes increasingly intuitive. Intuition is not magic, it's simply connecting observable dots. That's literally how FSD works.
I've experienced the "intuitive" driving in Version 14 FSD. Had the green arrow for a left turn across 2-lane highway. My CyberTruck started the left turn manuever and then "stopped" because an oncoming driver seemed to be going too fast to stop for his red light. When the car did get stopped, 007 completed the left turn. My CyberTruck anticipated a potential collision 💥 and waited to see if the other vehicle would run its red light.
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(but I don’t have a stop and go commute currently.)
 

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FSD has now racked up more than 10 billion miles driven 🤯

See the live FSD miles counter at: https://www.tesla.com/fsd/safety


I am at 76% FSD usage on my model 3 (AI4).
My Model Y is on AI3 so I do not have a FSD counter, but I have about 13K miles+ on FSD (with just Chicago to Detroit roundtrip drives).

I drive back and forth from Chicago to Detroit, FSD all 600 miles roundtrip.

I cannot imagine ever owning a car without FSD.
 

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FSD works by "intuition". Full stop.

As it continues to get more powerful, it becomes increasingly intuitive. Intuition is not magic, it's simply connecting observable dots. That's literally how FSD works.
That "Full stop" you speak of so strongly is a case in point. There are a lot of people who don't stop at stop signs. When FSD uses intuition, it'll know who those people are and California roll appropriately. I'll keep stopping at stop signs though.

And, yeah, I know FSD calculates outcomes and predicts behavior of moving objects and stationary objects and all that crap. My point was that by using the behavior of other FSD cars, it would be able to extend that beyond the line of sight.
 

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10 billion miles is an insanely huge amount of driving! The typical American driver logs 13,600 miles per year.

10 billion miles = the total driving of one average driver for ~735,000 years. It's becoming increasingly obvious that Tesla had the correct approach to FSD all along, massive amounts of visual data plus machine learning, while the other players wasted their time trying to force the outcome using lidar and precision mapping.

What is shocking to me is that RJ Scaringe at Rivian had the balls to tell customers and investors alike that lidar was going to be their secret weapon (long after Elon warned anyone who would listen that using lidar was a fool's game). I understand why RJ did it (because it was his best chance of continuing the charade of being in the running a while longer), I just don't agree with misleading everyone like that. Because I'm relatively confident he doesn't believe it himself, it's just in his best financial interest to extend investor hope a while longer to maintain the value of his vested shares (as much as possible anyway) that he steadily sells in large volumes on the open market to new gullible investors (or old investors doubling down on a losing position) throughout each and every year.

Rivian investors are seeing their early investments in RIVN diluted down to next to nothing while RJ continues to sell off his RIVN shares on a schedule, presumably to invest in other companies (since his annual cash base salary of $2 million/year probably exceeds his living expenses).
 


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Is the driver ultimately responsible for the vehicle, even when FSD is activated?
Can the "driver" use their cell phone while the vehicle is in FSD mode?
 

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Is the driver ultimately responsible for the vehicle, even when FSD is activated?
Can the "driver" use their cell phone while the vehicle is in FSD mode?
Are you being sincere here? You don't know the answer to these these questions?

We have gone over the first one many times, until FSD Unsupervised is released, the driver is responsible.

Like any modern car, from a legal perspective, the driver can only use the cell phone in hands free mode.

FSD has become so good that it's actually a lot more relaxing to drive with it engaged vs. driving manually. But if you don't know, you don't know.
 

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Yes, it's a sincere question. Just some of the things that have occurred to me while thinking on the topic recently.
 

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I'm at 0%. Taking away the manual speed limit is a deal breaker for me. As you can see I tried it a handful of times but it refused to do the speed I wanted so I quickly turned it off each time. I switched back to TACC only.

Tesla Cybertruck FSD hits 10 Billion miles driven! What’s your FSD % Usage? 1000016731
 


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10 billion miles is an insanely huge amount of driving! The typical American driver logs 13,600 miles per year.

10 billion miles = the total driving of one average driver for ~735,000 years. It's becoming increasingly obvious that Tesla had the correct approach to FSD all along, massive amounts of visual data plus machine learning, while the other players wasted their time trying to force the outcome using lidar and precision mapping.

What is shocking to me is that RJ Scaringe at Rivian had the balls to tell customers and investors alike that lidar was going to be their secret weapon (long after Elon warned anyone who would listen that using lidar was a fool's game). I understand why RJ did it (because it was his best chance of continuing the charade of being in the running a while longer), I just don't agree with misleading everyone like that. Because I'm relatively confident he doesn't believe it himself, it's just in his best financial interest to extend investor hope a while longer to maintain the value of his vested shares (as much as possible anyway) that he steadily sells in large volumes on the open market to new gullible investors (or old investors doubling down on a losing position) throughout each and every year.

Rivian investors are seeing their early investments in RIVN diluted down to next to nothing while RJ continues to sell off his RIVN shares on a schedule, presumably to invest in other companies (since his annual cash base salary of $2 million/year probably exceeds his living expenses).
I've been following Elon for decades. His grandiose ideas of sustainable rockets 🚀 and all-electric cars 🚗 that drive themselves are the new reality. When he said Tesla will solve autonomy with only cameras 📷 , his innovation was met with belly laughs again, from the peanut gallery. Time and time again, Elon has proven his path to solving extreme engineering problems and the innovation it takes to do it is unmatched. FSD 14.3 kills every competitors dreams of matching or approximating it's performance at cost per vehicle. Rivian will most likely file for bankruptcy protection within 5 years.
 

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Is the driver ultimately responsible for the vehicle, even when FSD is activated?
Can the "driver" use their cell phone while the vehicle is in FSD mode?
Yes.
Not legally.
 

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Can the "driver" use their cell phone while the vehicle is in FSD mode?
Depends on the jurisdiction, and how the driver is using it.
 
 








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