Range anxiety from a first time EV buyer.

[Cam Salazar]

I honestly don’t get the range anxiety thing at all.

I have a first gen Model S 60 and prior to replacing the battery pack (after 105k miles) the range was on what would be considered the lower end these days. On the day of delivery it was 211 miles rated and degraded from there.

With that battery when there was no charging network i drove the first month I had it from Silicon Valley to Tahoe straight uphill in winter.

Years later after degrading the battery plenty by charging to nearly full every time i charged, at a supercharger, for over a year (out of necessity) we loaded up the car wirh 3 kids, my wife and I, and a totally packed trunk and frunk and drove from San Jose, CA to Las Vegas and back. No problem.

I have never run out of range before making it where I was going in over 130k miles on my car and 76k mi on my wife’s Model 3 and neither has she. We have never become significantly anxious about running out of juice because it is a non-issue.

You just plan and daisy-chain from charger to charger and it gives you a chance to stretch your legs, grab some food, use the restroom, and hit the road again. If you are “chargesitting” inside the vehicle every once and a while it gets boring but that is the opposite of anxiety.

So again, I really don’t get the range anxiety thing at all.

I guess for those hauling heavy large trailers this could become an issue but if you aren’t towing I honestly would not worry about it.

It would be like worrying in your ICE about running out if gas constantly, which I’m assuming you don’t. Pretty much everywhere has a standard wall outlet you can plug into to trickle charge in a pinch. Almost nowhere but gas stations have gasoline. I would be more anxious in an ICE vehcile at this point given my own experience but YMMV.

FWIW that’s my 2 cents. My advice is stop worrying and enjoy your BEV. Range anxiety is mostly media hype to scare people from giving up fossil fuel dependence IMHO.

Cheers

Great comment but all the acronyms are unnecessary, I still don't know what they are, why create a new language?

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[XCeilidhX]

Great comment but all the acronyms are unnecessary, I still don't know what they are, why create a new language?

It’s old hat now. Lol.

BEV = Battery Electric Vehicle

ICE = Internal Combustion Engine

FWIW = For what it’s worth

YMMV = Your mileage may vary

IMHO = In my humble opinion

Cheers

 

[Pops]

Range Anxiety as a new EV owner = MY CAR IS GOING TO LEAVE ME STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HIGHWAY.

Range Anxiety after a few years = I might have to stop at a charger before I get home and pay 2x more per kWh, why has God forsaken me?!

 

[CyberGus]

Great comment but all the acronyms are unnecessary, I still don't know what they are, why create a new language?

Welcome to the internet

 

[CyberGus]

Hey everyone, fairly new in here and as much as I LOVE my CT, I am definitely feeling the talked about range anxiety

When embarking on an ICE trip, there is no “range anxiety” because gas stations are ubiquitous; when you need gas, you just take the next exit.

Fast chargers aren’t quite as common, so you will need to do some planning, but the nav will basically do that for you.

 

[Cam Salazar]

Welcome to the internet

I've been on the internet since it's creation, it's not an internet thing, it's a laziness thing. Some acronyms make sense, others are unnecessary. Why would I convert half of what I just said into acronyms unless my intent was for no one to understand what I just said? If I have something to say, wouldn't I want my audience to clearly understand me?
Just some food for thought, no need to reply to my questions.

 

[CyberGus]

I've been on the internet since it's creation, it's not an internet thing, it's a laziness thing. Some acronyms make sense, others are unnecessary. Why would I convert half of what I just said into acronyms unless my intent was for no one to understand what I just said? If I have something to say, wouldn't I want my audience to clearly understand me?
Just some food for thought, no need to reply to my questions.

OMG
WTF?
LOL!

 

[Cam Salazar]

OMG
WTF?
LOL!

??? you poor thing

 

[Sjohnson20]

it’s largely buyers that worry about this. As an owner it’s no problem. You will adjust.

 

[tmeyer3]

It's just one of those paradigm shifts that takes time. It took me about a year of EV regular driving to get over it

 

[tmeyer3]

I've been on the internet since it's creation, it's not an internet thing, it's a laziness thing. Some acronyms make sense, others are unnecessary. Why would I convert half of what I just said into acronyms unless my intent was for no one to understand what I just said? If I have something to say, wouldn't I want my audience to clearly understand me?
Just some food for thought, no need to reply to my questions.

I was a ham before the Internet was a thing, look up q codes ?
Acronyms are a way of life imho

 

[wtibbit]

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Does anyone know of this […replacement of original EV battery with new technology battery…] being in our future potentially in the next 5-10 years? Would love to extend the range on my CT without the need of that massive range extender that takes up like half the bed. Would love to hear your opinions.

I don’t see Tesla selling and installing new EV batteries specifically for upgrade purposes as likely in the future for Cybertruck. Tesla would love for you to upgrade your battery, but to do it by purchasing a new Cybertruck.

But, if we own our Cybertrucks for many years and miles, we could possibly get an upgraded battery, as a warranty replacement or as a component replacement in the future. It really depends on how much the Cybertruck's physical and software components change in the future.

There is already a precedent for this - the Nissan Leaf. The Leaf's physical and software changes to the battery, it's physical and electrical and control interfaces have been small enough to allow upgraded batteries for later year models to be installed (with modifications, perhaps) into older Leafs. Here is EVrides, a company that is doing this now, apparently, for the Leaf. They also support Teslas, although not for battery replacement, at least yet:
https://evridespdx.com/landing-custom/

 

[M0unt41nm4n]

I've been on the internet since it's creation, it's not an internet thing, it's a laziness thing. Some acronyms make sense, others are unnecessary. Why would I convert half of what I just said into acronyms unless my intent was for no one to understand what I just said? If I have something to say, wouldn't I want my audience to clearly understand me?
Just some food for thought, no need to reply to my questions.

Actually... a lot of the acronyms didn't come from the internet. They came from SMS... when people had only a phone keyboard to send texts. So they came up with short acronyms to make it quick to type on those. I still laugh when I'm communicating with someone in a forum, etc... and they type "Y R U" for "Why are you", or "U R" for "You are". The SMS speak kind of bled over to the NET and somewhat became ubiquitous.

Also, when Twitter had their 140 character limit, that kind of helped that along as well.

 

[NightOwl]

I told people all the time the EV has a 300+ mile range and I only have about a 200 mile bladder. Rarely does anybody drive 500 miles in a day unless you’re on a road trip and then you’re using the supercharger network and stopping to charge. I’ve been an EV owner since 2015 with a Tesla model S and later a model X and now a cyber truck. There’s plenty of charging around so topping off the battery when you need to is no big deal. So I would just enjoy your vehicle

“ … only have a 200 mile bladder.” ??

So true of a lot of people.

 

[Dantes]

I honestly don’t get the range anxiety thing at all.

I have a first gen Model S 60 and prior to replacing the battery pack (after 105k miles) the range was on what would be considered the lower end these days. On the day of delivery it was 211 miles rated and degraded from there.

With that battery when there was no charging network i drove the first month I had it from Silicon Valley to Tahoe straight uphill in winter.

Years later after degrading the battery plenty by charging to nearly full every time i charged, at a supercharger, for over a year (out of necessity) we loaded up the car wirh 3 kids, my wife and I, and a totally packed trunk and frunk and drove from San Jose, CA to Las Vegas and back. No problem.

I have never run out of range before making it where I was going in over 130k miles on my car and 76k mi on my wife’s Model 3 and neither has she. We have never become significantly anxious about running out of juice because it is a non-issue.

You just plan and daisy-chain from charger to charger and it gives you a chance to stretch your legs, grab some food, use the restroom, and hit the road again. If you are “chargesitting” inside the vehicle every once and a while it gets boring but that is the opposite of anxiety.

So again, I really don’t get the range anxiety thing at all.

I guess for those hauling heavy large trailers this could become an issue but if you aren’t towing I honestly would not worry about it.

It would be like worrying in your ICE about running out if gas constantly, which I’m assuming you don’t. Pretty much everywhere has a standard wall outlet you can plug into to trickle charge in a pinch. Almost nowhere but gas stations have gasoline. I would be more anxious in an ICE vehcile at this point given my own experience but YMMV.

FWIW that’s my 2 cents. My advice is stop worrying and enjoy your BEV. Range anxiety is mostly media hype to scare people from giving up fossil fuel dependence IMHO.

Cheers

Fair enough. Would still love to have 500+ miles of charge like originally advertised though =]
The degradation was big concern too, glad to hear that your cars still performed well.

Thanks for the advice!

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