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Yup, especially on highway and stop and go traffic
Thank you for confirming that. I’m glad I’m not the only one, maybe it will get fixed. I’ve aborted and reported the left side thing quite a few times but was too shocked to do that for the close following brake-slam.
 

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12.5.5 is an early build of FSD and the first for the CT. It has lots of issues: late braking, turning left onto oncoming lanes, constant accelerator variability on highway, doesn’t change lanes as often as it should on highway sticking to its lane, etc. 12.5.4 doesn’t have any of these issues. Cleary 12.5.5 - end to end - is new and not ready for prime time. I’d be careful doing all the “normal” things like towing, etc at this stage. I am sure it’ll improve soon and get to 12.5.4 capability and beyond as the models merge.
 


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I partly justify the ownership of a truck since winemaking is a retirement hobby. Each year I drive 160 miles to Paso Robles, pick up a ton of grapes and drive home to process the grapes. My 2010 F-150 has done the job well in the past. The bed load rating on the F-150 was 1,000 pounds. It squatted with 2,000, but sprang back to normal after the load was removed (Ford Tough?).

The first wine trip in the Cybertruck was a little exciting. I charged to 80% at home and departed at O' Dark-30. Fortunately, the supervised FSD was installed, and it did a very good job along the way. I never really figured out how the speed control is supposed to work as it was set to 65 Max speed limit and the scroll wheel doesn't change this setting. I would accelerate with the electron pedal to get up to speed, but eventually the truck would slow down. There is some construction and a pretty narrow lane with cement barriers on both sides of the lane and I couldn't allow FSD to drive so close to the driver's side barrier and interrupted FSD to drive myself. I charged up in 38 minutes the Atascadero SC from 30% to 80% (first mistake) before getting the grapes because I wanted to waste no time charging on the way home. My mileage was 383 WHM going up at 70-75 with little traffic. When the 2,000 pounds of grapes were loaded, she squatted, but shortly the air shocks raised it back to level. I tied the bins down with multiple tie-down straps, all the while hoping the D-hooks in the bed were not plastic. I used the Vault Cargo Divider to keep the bins away from the top edge of the roof (second mistake). The vineyard picture shows the 2 bins sticking up past the roofline and providing significant wind resistance.

On the way home, the projected % battery at destination started out at about 25%. I expected it to burn more of the battery but thought I would get home without another charge. I kept the max speed at 60 MPH and FSD held that speed very well. I could use the turn signal if I wanted to change lanes to avoid an even slower truck. As I watched the battery forecast drop, my anticipation increased. I needed to get to the shop for destemming and crushing before 3 PM and I didn't have time to stop and recharge. After the forecast got down to 10% and I was a short distance away, I stopped worrying about a dead battery.

There was an accident 2 miles from my destination and traffic was 5-10 MPH. The CT was slowly creeping along nicely following a Ferrari in front of me. I'm thinking, gee, it really seems like we are pretty close to the Ferrari. ` Within a minute of thinking that, we got REALLY close to the Ferrari! But not for long, the FSD slammed on the brakes to avoid hitting the Ferrari. I did not notice the Ferrari stopping abruptly to cause the CT to brake hard. I did not save a video clipping. The 2,000 pounds of grapes shifted and bumped into the roof overhang of the bed. The Vault Cargo Divider obviously isn't designed to stop a 2,000-pound load and the tie-downs were not configured to hold the load, yeah, my bad. Who knew FSD would slam on the brakes at 5 MPH? Glad it didn't slam on the brakes when I was doing 60! Pure speculation but thinking FSD isn't set up to know you have an extra 30% of weight in the vehicle when it decides to slow down. Maybe it is in the fine print, but I have not seen cautionary statements about not using FSD with heavy load. Does FSD say anything about towing a trailer? The Rivian tells you the weight of your load. Hopefully, Cybertrucks will too someday.

Mr CT is bruised, but not damaged. My Vault Divider's rubber pads need to be straightened (no bent metal parts). The Ferrari will live for another day, unscratched. The drive home with an extra 2,000 pounds at 60 MPH burned 451 WHM. That is only 18% more energy use, but my speed was much lower. The gas for my F-150 would have been about $107, the cost was $80 in the Cybertruck. It required 11 hours to charge from 6% to 80% on my 14-50 240v home charger. The battery got down to 6% by the time I made it back home. That is lower than I should let it get, but I started charging right away when I got home. Mr CT gave me several warnings about running out of battery soon.

Two stacked harvest bins full of Merlot grapes at the winery.

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One bin full of wine must fermenting in the garage. I won't drive the truck until after the fermentation step is complete in about 10 days. There is about an 1" of clearance front and back in the garage with the tailgate down.

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That is one of my hobbies!
Just out of curiosity i turned on trailer mode while fsd was on, it freaked out and gave me the red steering wheel saying take over immediately!. I think TACC works with trailer mode but not sure about fsd
 
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Yes, it wanted to hug the left side. Frequently driving over the left side lane markers.
As far as charging up to 100% at home, that had zero effect on the charge level when I got home. If I charged to 100% at home before departure, I would just reduce the time spent charging along the way. I should have charged to 90% or more as Atascadero SC to give me more battery to get home.
 

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12.5.5 is an early build of FSD and the first for the CT. It has lots of issues: late braking, turning left onto oncoming lanes, constant accelerator variability on highway, doesn’t change lanes as often as it should on highway sticking to its lane, etc. 12.5.4 doesn’t have any of these issues. Cleary 12.5.5 - end to end - is new and not ready for prime time. I’d be careful doing all the “normal” things like towing, etc at this stage. I am sure it’ll improve soon and get to 12.5.4 capability and beyond as the models merge.
"End-to-End" is new, but I disagree that it's not ready for prime time w/ supervision. The new FSD is being trained on our driving behavior so it's very possible that most people are hugging the left side more than they'd like to admit.

The more we use it and correct it, the faster it'll improve and learn to tackle additional driving scenarios.
 

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I never really figured out how the speed control is supposed to work as it was set to 65 Max speed limit and the scroll wheel doesn't change this setting.
If you turn off the auto speed setting, then the right scroll wheel goes back to adjusting max speed.
 


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I partly justify the ownership of a truck since winemaking is a retirement hobby. Each year I drive 160 miles to Paso Robles, pick up a ton of grapes and drive home to process the grapes. My 2010 F-150 has done the job well in the past. The bed load rating on the F-150 was 1,000 pounds. It squatted with 2,000, but sprang back to normal after the load was removed (Ford Tough?).

The first wine trip in the Cybertruck was a little exciting. I charged to 80% at home and departed at O' Dark-30. Fortunately, the supervised FSD was installed, and it did a very good job along the way. I never really figured out how the speed control is supposed to work as it was set to 65 Max speed limit and the scroll wheel doesn't change this setting. I would accelerate with the electron pedal to get up to speed, but eventually the truck would slow down. There is some construction and a pretty narrow lane with cement barriers on both sides of the lane and I couldn't allow FSD to drive so close to the driver's side barrier and interrupted FSD to drive myself. I charged up in 38 minutes the Atascadero SC from 30% to 80% (first mistake) before getting the grapes because I wanted to waste no time charging on the way home. My mileage was 383 WHM going up at 70-75 with little traffic. When the 2,000 pounds of grapes were loaded, she squatted, but shortly the air shocks raised it back to level. I tied the bins down with multiple tie-down straps, all the while hoping the D-hooks in the bed were not plastic. I used the Vault Cargo Divider to keep the bins away from the top edge of the roof (second mistake). The vineyard picture shows the 2 bins sticking up past the roofline and providing significant wind resistance.

On the way home, the projected % battery at destination started out at about 25%. I expected it to burn more of the battery but thought I would get home without another charge. I kept the max speed at 60 MPH and FSD held that speed very well. I could use the turn signal if I wanted to change lanes to avoid an even slower truck. As I watched the battery forecast drop, my anticipation increased. I needed to get to the shop for destemming and crushing before 3 PM and I didn't have time to stop and recharge. After the forecast got down to 10% and I was a short distance away, I stopped worrying about a dead battery.

There was an accident 2 miles from my destination and traffic was 5-10 MPH. The CT was slowly creeping along nicely following a Ferrari in front of me. I'm thinking, gee, it really seems like we are pretty close to the Ferrari. ` Within a minute of thinking that, we got REALLY close to the Ferrari! But not for long, the FSD slammed on the brakes to avoid hitting the Ferrari. I did not notice the Ferrari stopping abruptly to cause the CT to brake hard. I did not save a video clipping. The 2,000 pounds of grapes shifted and bumped into the roof overhang of the bed. The Vault Cargo Divider obviously isn't designed to stop a 2,000-pound load and the tie-downs were not configured to hold the load, yeah, my bad. Who knew FSD would slam on the brakes at 5 MPH? Glad it didn't slam on the brakes when I was doing 60! Pure speculation but thinking FSD isn't set up to know you have an extra 30% of weight in the vehicle when it decides to slow down. Maybe it is in the fine print, but I have not seen cautionary statements about not using FSD with heavy load. Does FSD say anything about towing a trailer? The Rivian tells you the weight of your load. Hopefully, Cybertrucks will too someday.

Mr CT is bruised, but not damaged. My Vault Divider's rubber pads need to be straightened (no bent metal parts). The Ferrari will live for another day, unscratched. The drive home with an extra 2,000 pounds at 60 MPH burned 451 WHM. That is only 18% more energy use, but my speed was much lower. The gas for my F-150 would have been about $107, the cost was $80 in the Cybertruck. It required 11 hours to charge from 6% to 80% on my 14-50 240v home charger. The battery got down to 6% by the time I made it back home. That is lower than I should let it get, but I started charging right away when I got home. Mr CT gave me several warnings about running out of battery soon.

Two stacked harvest bins full of Merlot grapes at the winery.

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One bin full of wine must fermenting in the garage. I won't drive the truck until after the fermentation step is complete in about 10 days. There is about an 1" of clearance front and back in the garage with the tailgate down.

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That is one of my hobbies!
Great story and real life adventure! Wondered about 'mileage' with a big load that ruins the aerodynamics too...

If you are going to the EV Meetup later this month at Spencer Makenzie's bring that wine!! hehe...
 

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Factor in the cost of the CT and it is $186/bottle. I wrote too much in the story, everyone missed the part about the FSD failure and Ferrari.
It's hard to me to focus once I hear Cybertruck and wine.
 

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I partly justify the ownership of a truck since winemaking is a retirement hobby. Each year I drive 160 miles to Paso Robles, pick up a ton of grapes and drive home to process the grapes. My 2010 F-150 has done the job well in the past. The bed load rating on the F-150 was 1,000 pounds. It squatted with 2,000, but sprang back to normal after the load was removed (Ford Tough?).

The first wine trip in the Cybertruck was a little exciting. I charged to 80% at home and departed at O' Dark-30. Fortunately, the supervised FSD was installed, and it did a very good job along the way. I never really figured out how the speed control is supposed to work as it was set to 65 Max speed limit and the scroll wheel doesn't change this setting. I would accelerate with the electron pedal to get up to speed, but eventually the truck would slow down. There is some construction and a pretty narrow lane with cement barriers on both sides of the lane and I couldn't allow FSD to drive so close to the driver's side barrier and interrupted FSD to drive myself. I charged up in 38 minutes the Atascadero SC from 30% to 80% (first mistake) before getting the grapes because I wanted to waste no time charging on the way home. My mileage was 383 WHM going up at 70-75 with little traffic. When the 2,000 pounds of grapes were loaded, she squatted, but shortly the air shocks raised it back to level. I tied the bins down with multiple tie-down straps, all the while hoping the D-hooks in the bed were not plastic. I used the Vault Cargo Divider to keep the bins away from the top edge of the roof (second mistake). The vineyard picture shows the 2 bins sticking up past the roofline and providing significant wind resistance.

On the way home, the projected % battery at destination started out at about 25%. I expected it to burn more of the battery but thought I would get home without another charge. I kept the max speed at 60 MPH and FSD held that speed very well. I could use the turn signal if I wanted to change lanes to avoid an even slower truck. As I watched the battery forecast drop, my anticipation increased. I needed to get to the shop for destemming and crushing before 3 PM and I didn't have time to stop and recharge. After the forecast got down to 10% and I was a short distance away, I stopped worrying about a dead battery.

There was an accident 2 miles from my destination and traffic was 5-10 MPH. The CT was slowly creeping along nicely following a Ferrari in front of me. I'm thinking, gee, it really seems like we are pretty close to the Ferrari. ` Within a minute of thinking that, we got REALLY close to the Ferrari! But not for long, the FSD slammed on the brakes to avoid hitting the Ferrari. I did not notice the Ferrari stopping abruptly to cause the CT to brake hard. I did not save a video clipping. The 2,000 pounds of grapes shifted and bumped into the roof overhang of the bed. The Vault Cargo Divider obviously isn't designed to stop a 2,000-pound load and the tie-downs were not configured to hold the load, yeah, my bad. Who knew FSD would slam on the brakes at 5 MPH? Glad it didn't slam on the brakes when I was doing 60! Pure speculation but thinking FSD isn't set up to know you have an extra 30% of weight in the vehicle when it decides to slow down. Maybe it is in the fine print, but I have not seen cautionary statements about not using FSD with heavy load. Does FSD say anything about towing a trailer? The Rivian tells you the weight of your load. Hopefully, Cybertrucks will too someday.

Mr CT is bruised, but not damaged. My Vault Divider's rubber pads need to be straightened (no bent metal parts). The Ferrari will live for another day, unscratched. The drive home with an extra 2,000 pounds at 60 MPH burned 451 WHM. That is only 18% more energy use, but my speed was much lower. The gas for my F-150 would have been about $107, the cost was $80 in the Cybertruck. It required 11 hours to charge from 6% to 80% on my 14-50 240v home charger. The battery got down to 6% by the time I made it back home. That is lower than I should let it get, but I started charging right away when I got home. Mr CT gave me several warnings about running out of battery soon.

Two stacked harvest bins full of Merlot grapes at the winery.

image1.jpeg


One bin full of wine must fermenting in the garage. I won't drive the truck until after the fermentation step is complete in about 10 days. There is about an 1" of clearance front and back in the garage with the tailgate down.

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That is one of my hobbies!
Keep it real for 805.
 

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I charged to 80% at home and departed at O' Dark-30...

I charged up in 38 minutes the Atascadero SC from 30% to 80%...

The gas for my F-150 would have been about $107, the cost was $80 in the Cybertruck. It required 11 hours to charge from 6% to 80% on my 14-50 240v home charger. The battery got down to 6% by the time I made it back home.
I'm shocked by how much you Californians pay for electricity!

By my calculations you burned through 50% of the battery and then 74% of the battery for a total of 124% of a 123 kWh battery. That's 152.5 kWh. Even if we add 10% for charging inefficiencies, that only comes out to 168 kWh. That comes out to $0.48/kWh even though most of your charging was done at home! I would have thought if you left at "dark-30" your first and only Supercharger stop would not be at peak rates!

It's practically free (in comparison) to drive my Cybertruck up here in Washington.
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