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3 days of FSD
GRADE - A-

I have driven 4-5 hours, I’ve intervened 3x. Otherwise it flawlessly drove me, honestly, better than I drive.

A- because it struggles with left turns and nearly has hit multiple cars. That said, it didn’t, but it needs to leave more space.

If you have any vision, you will understand how impactful this is, it literally is the next Industrial Revolution. This will change everything
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Several years ago, I thought if they required TACC on LA freeways it would eliminate traffic jams and debottleneck LA freeways. I'm sure it will be a long time before anything like that happens. I've had to intervene when I did not feel comfortable trusting it or when the GPS mapping is not correct.
I keep thinking, Tesla doesn't want me to intervene, but they won't pay for the damage caused when FSD crashes, so I'm going to take over!
 

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A- because it struggles with left turns and nearly has hit multiple cars
I wish you would have graded my work in school. You're very generous.

Self-driving is one of those problems where 99.9% solved might as well be a million miles away from 100%. That 0.01% disqualifies it as full self-driving.
 
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It’s not perfect but imagine in 10 years. It will be and it will change everything. Don’t misinterpret it as tomorrow, think long term. If I were a truck driver, I’d be looking for a new career. Imagine all the reclaimed concrete when an autonomous car just drops you wherever within minutes of request. I drive 5 miles tonight with zero intervention, it’s pretty darn good
 

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Aside from the left turn issues I've also noticed it gets real wonky and confused when a light turns yellow as you cross or are just about to cross into an intersection. Also still not the best getting in the correct lane in time to turn or exit in medium to heavy traffic. Last, here in Indy we have some red colored bus only land (the whole lane is painted red, and it just ignored this and tried to use it like a normal lane on the road. It's great and so good to finally have it and I use it all the time but if give it a C maybe C+ at the moment.
 


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Had the truck drive me to the supermarket and back yesterday, which involves going through 3 roundabouts within a mile or two after getting off the highway. In my town, I'd say about 2/3 of people know how to actually use roundabouts, and the other 1/3 think it's a 4 way stop or something and stop before entering - even if it's totally clear. Compounding the issue is that the roundabouts are all 2 lanes, and you need to know which lane to be in to before you enter as the outer lanes sometime exit immediately.

Anyway, I was curious how it'd do in moderate afternoon traffic. And, to my surprise, it handled them flawlessly. It glided in when it was clear, and held for a gap when it wasn't. Selected the correct lanes each time, too. I really didn't expect it to go smoothly, so this was a nice surprise. I'd say it drove them better than the average resident. It did them fine in reverse on the way home, as well.

Later, on a 2-lane state road, I did need to disengage once when it didn't pull over for an oncoming emergency vehicle in the opposing lane. I didn't need to, clearance-wise, but it's the thing to do and the cars in front of us were all pulling over so the truck needs to learn to follow that pattern.

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Give it another 6 months of iterative development and it will be there. While currently not perfect I thought I'd never see it in my lifetime.
 

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I was impressed when my CT went around a car making a left turn at a traffic light (there was enough room to the right to go around it). I was about to disengage in order to keep the flow of traffic going, but then I saw FSD handle it for me! ?
 

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I wish you would have graded my work in school. You're very generous.

Self-driving is one of those problems where 99.9% solved might as well be a million miles away from 100%. That 0.01% disqualifies it as full self-driving.
So how did you get your license? You aren't 100% perfect. You are actually one of the biggest reasons that FSD isn't 100%
 


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You only get a 1/2 grade deduction for “nearly hitting several cars” ?
 

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You only get a 1/2 grade deduction for “nearly hitting several cars” ?
If you didn't hit them, then they didn't get hit.
And unlike humans, a computer can actually drive within an inch of something safely.

Humans, they generally hit cars.
 

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So how did you get your license? You aren't 100% perfect. You are actually one of the biggest reasons that FSD isn't 100%
I believe its clear I am referring to capability, not accidents. It needs to be able to handle 100% of the situations a human can. After that there will still be FSD accidents that are beyond the limitations of physics and time, and that is understandable.

IE: A tree falling in front of the car, or another vehicle running a red light, etc... Right now FSD will crash into a corner because its only 99.9% capable.
 

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If you didn't hit them, then they didn't get hit.
And unlike humans, a computer can actually drive within an inch of something safely.

Humans, they generally hit cars.
But the question is did you not get hit because of “the humans reaction” or the computers reaction?
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