Kicked out of FSD NOT EVEN 1 WEEK!!!

[BlueLightning]

Again hilarious!!!

Pay $8,000-$15,000 in the past to have you watch the car, watch you, watching the car drive…? Genius and priceless.

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[agordon117]

Agreed. A single button won't ever fly with the NHTSA, but that's difficult considering Tesla removed all the other buttons/levers/etc.

another button solves nothing. NHTSA should equally not allow me to have dumb cruise in my jeep since the TACC button is right next to the dumb cruise button, and looks very similar.

 

[SCTesla]

another button solves nothing. NHTSA should equally not allow me to have dumb cruise in my jeep since the TACC button is right next to the dumb cruise button, and looks very similar.

Your jeep doesn't steer for you.

That's the issue here. Autosteer causes accidents when people say they thought they were in it, but they were in TACC...obviously even more severe with FSD.

They reported how many people blamed mode confusion on accidents and then there were reports without accidents.

 

[agordon117]

Wait a minute... this isn't what NHTSA was worried about at all. They were worried about how you can disengage autosteer but TACC will remain active. Like by grabbing the wheel. I'm not sure I have an issue with that functionality going away. Grab the wheel also disengages the cruise function, then no confusion. Fine with me.

Maybe there were separate probes. idk.

However they came to this conclusion, they are wrong, and it needs to be addressed.

 

[SCTesla]

Wait a minute... this isn't what NHTSA was worried about at all. They were worried about how you can disengage autosteer but TACC will remain active. Like by grabbing the wheel. I'm not sure I have an issue with that functionality going away. Grab the wheel also disengages the cruise function, then no confusion. Fine with me.

Maybe there were separate probes. idk.

However they came to this conclusion, they are wrong, and it needs to be addressed.

Same probe, this was literally copied from the pdf I posted. Item 1 was mode confusion. They had an issue with both, also the visuals which told you what mode you were in, which Tesla changed. They also made the audio louder and removed the ability to disable.

1. Item 1: Mode confusion
Remedy: Add a single-pull activation option for the activation of Autopilot. Enablement of this optional function causes inadvertent steering overrides to disengage both Autosteer and TACC leading to a more pronounced slowdown to alert the driver that Autosteer has been canceled and they must resume immediate control of the vehicle. This function is not default on vehicles who received the remedy in the field and can readily be enabled and disabled by consumers.

 

[Woodrick]

Wrong




TACC does not include lane centering. Basic autopilot is 2 parts. TACC and autosteer. But regardless of the semantics, what you're saying is not a thing that can be done in real time on the highway. I require being able to switch back and forth between some form of cruise without any form of lane centering or self driving (TACC is okay, but dumb cruise option would also be fine), and whatever has autosteer (be it autopilot or FSD).

As it stands, it is impossible to turn off and then turn back on autosteer without parking the car. So if you have an issue where FSD is hugging the left edge of your lane for no reason, or there's something complicated coming up that you don't really want to be a passenger for... Turning off FSD locks you out of turning it back on until you pull over and put the truck in park. This is a huge downgrade from how it worked in the model Y with FSD I traded in back in april.

If you want to use that definition, then Tesla doesn't have TACC. It's Basic Autopilot or FSD.

Basic Autopilot
Enables your car to steer, accelerate and brake automatically for other vehicles and pedestrians within its lane. Advanced safety and convenience features are designed to assist you with the most burdensome parts of driving, alongside driver assistance features such as emergency braking, collision warning and blind-spot monitoring.

But wait, the Cybertruck hasn't had Basic Autopilot, because it hasn't steered.


And yes, you didn't read what I said before, you CAN have FSD and Basic Autopilot, just setup two profiles.

It's very possible that when Basic Autopilot gets added to the Cybertruck that it will drive exactly like FSD does. So if you don't like FSD, your only option would be to turn it off.

 

[agordon117]

And yes, you didn't read what I said before, you CAN have FSD and Basic Autopilot, just setup two profiles.

I did read what you said, but what I'm asking for is to be able to change between cruise and fsd without stopping. Can you do that? Can you swap driver profiles while on the highway? I don't have my truck here to set it up and test, or I would.

 

[Woodrick]

I did read what you said, but what I'm asking for is to be able to change between cruise and fsd without stopping. Can you do that? Can you swap driver profiles while on the highway? I don't have my truck here to set it up and test, or I would.

Why do you think that I keep repeating the answer to your question?

That's because it is the answer. I didn't create it, it's a common question that someone else figured out a long time ago.

 

[agordon117]

Why do you think that I keep repeating the answer to your question?

That's because it is the answer. I didn't create it, it's a common question that someone else figured out a long time ago.

Well when I get my truck back, I'm gonna try it, and you get a cookie if it works.

 

[Crissa]

another button solves nothing. NHTSA should equally not allow me to have dumb cruise in my jeep since the TACC button is right next to the dumb cruise button, and looks very similar.

Really?

Because of Tesla's ability to update things over the air, NHTSA is far more likely to require a fix or recall than for a company that cannot do this - because repairs have a feasibility component. So several things Model 3 has been recalled for, my Mazda 3 hasn't and still does the stupid way.

-Crissa

 

[Frank_Castle]

That's cool - you get 5 strikes getting FSD locked out.

How do you tell what your current strike count is? How do you see that in real time?

 

[L3it3R]

If the quotes I see on page one are accurate - GOOD. You do not need FSD. You need to pay attention to the road. You are an active danger to your community.

If you’re trolling… get a life.

 

[Korben Dallas]

That's cool - you get 5 strikes getting FSD locked out.

How do you tell what your current strike count is? How do you see that in real time?

Same place —> Controls —> Autopilot. Then read the 2nd sentence where I have the red arrow pointing to.

 

[Frank_Castle]

Same place —> Controls —> Autopilot. Then read the 2nd sentence where I have the red arrow pointing to.

Got it. Thought it would say 0 out of 5 or something similar, but assume the # will show there. Thanks!

 

[Woodrick]

Got it. Thought it would say 0 out of 5 or something similar, but assume the # will show there. Thanks!

It does, this picture said none.

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