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At 2am. Cameras didn't recognize my eyes. After had 2 hand death grip on wheel screen went RED. Turned off FSD. I will never ever turn it on again. When I had 2 hand grip and it didn't even recognize them
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He's kidding. ..possibly trolling. ;-)
I do not think he was kidding. I like FSD, but it frequently does unsafe and illegal things; such as: barreling through school zones, using turn-only lanes as straight lanes, and ignoring pedestrians. I feel that, in its current version, constant attention is needed to drive safely. I still use it, but I watch what it is doing.
 

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I think I may be the first cybertruck probably forsure cyberbeast owner to be kicked out of fsd ????? back to driving my model s till I get it back
A Model S owner?

There's nothing to say but shame on you. You know the rules, you've lived by the rules.

You deserve the week in the doghouse!
 

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I do not think he was kidding. I like FSD, but it frequently does unsafe and illegal things; such as: barreling through school zones, using turn-only lanes as straight lanes, and ignoring pedestrians. I feel that, in its current version, constant attention is needed to drive safely. I still use it, but I watch what it is doing.
That’s why it’s called ‘Supervised’ its good to hear you’re acting responsibly.
 

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Is FSD not hands free? I thought that was the point. I had to use the weight in my Lightning because my hand didn't torque the steering wheel enough during the Blue Cruise gaps where I only had ACC and lane center.
Yes, it is hands free, but you MUST still pay attention to the road.

Tesla is pretty good at detecting when you aren't.

Why are they so anal about this?

Well, when people keep suing you, you tend not to be able to trust people anymore.

Any time things like this happen, WE are the ones who pay.
 


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While I'll grant you that I didn't even get one strike, the system gets really upset if you look at the screen for more than 8 seconds. The screen that 80% of the vehicle controls, the speedometer, the rear view mirror, and the display showing you your lane centering are on.

I'm sitting there trying to figure out how to turn off single press FSD mode, set the follow distance, set the aggressiveness profile, and turn on "minimal lane changes for current drive"... only to find that zero of those things exist on the truck (love having less options). Meanwhile, the attention monitor beeps at me. Once it beeps the first time, the second time it's even MORE touchy. If the first time was 8 seconds, the second time was 4. So I just gave up and drove manually until I got to my destination and found that all of the options in question had been removed from the software before it was pushed to the truck.

Not being able to pick between TACC and FSD on the fly is super annoying. When FSD starts drifting to the left edge of my lane or I'm coming up to a toll booth or something, I can't just revert to cruise. Not unless I'm willing to dig through the menus, turn off FSD, and not be able to turn it back on until I'm parked. You can make any excuse you want for any of it, but not having the option to set it back to one click tacc, two click fsd... is a really terrible move


I'm not even mad at the nanny system, it's doing what it's supposed to. But I can see how it would be quite difficult if you're trying to use any vehicle control you don't already know where to find. I bet it would have beeped at me if I was trying to find defrost after not needing it all summer. Or turning off auto high beams for the first time when they start beaming everyone around you
 

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I think the "FSD jail" time is one week.
I Am not surprised. ALL the information about driving is in the screen and if you look at it to be aware of whats going on, very soon you’ll see a blue light on top as a Warning. If you look again you get a red driving wheel and before you realized it you are penalized. Five of those and you go to jail for a week. You feel like you have a police man waching your back in your own car.
 


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I think I may be the first cybertruck probably forsure cyberbeast owner to be kicked out of fsd ????? back to driving my model s till I get it back
It is from the error reported here on the forums that is false thinks 'your hands are not on the wheel' error?...if that happens too many times....baby gets put in the corner
 

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Yes, it is hands free, but you MUST still pay attention to the road.

Tesla is pretty good at detecting when you aren't.

Why are they so anal about this?

Well, when people keep suing you, you tend not to be able to trust people anymore.

Any time things like this happen, WE are the ones who pay.
I was asking because I'm still deciding on which EV truck I'm getting next. I haven't owned a Tesla, but I assumed it was less hassle, or superior to legacy's Blue Cruise or Super Cruise. Can anyone chime in who has had experience with both? BC nags, but lock outs are temporary. As long as my hands don't block the sensors and I'm generally looking forward I don't have issues; so I can do the occasional text or stream video if the device is in the line of sight (not impeding sight) area during long trips.
 
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While I'll grant you that I didn't even get one strike, the system gets really upset if you look at the screen for more than 8 seconds. The screen that 80% of the vehicle controls, the speedometer, the rear view mirror, and the display showing you your lane centering are on.

I'm sitting there trying to figure out how to turn off single press FSD mode, set the follow distance, set the aggressiveness profile, and turn on "minimal lane changes for current drive"... only to find that zero of those things exist on the truck (love having less options). Meanwhile, the attention monitor beeps at me. Once it beeps the first time, the second time it's even MORE touchy. If the first time was 8 seconds, the second time was 4. So I just gave up and drove manually until I got to my destination and found that all of the options in question had been removed from the software before it was pushed to the truck.

Not being able to pick between TACC and FSD on the fly is super annoying. When FSD starts drifting to the left edge of my lane or I'm coming up to a toll booth or something, I can't just revert to cruise. Not unless I'm willing to dig through the menus, turn off FSD, and not be able to turn it back on until I'm parked. You can make any excuse you want for any of it, but not having the option to set it back to one click tacc, two click fsd... is a really terrible move


I'm not even mad at the nanny system, it's doing what it's supposed to. But I can see how it would be quite difficult if you're trying to use any vehicle control you don't already know where to find. I bet it would have beeped at me if I was trying to find defrost after not needing it all summer. Or turning off auto high beams for the first time when they start beaming everyone around you
This is first release for the Cybertruck. Whether or not the other features that you are looking for is coming is unknown, but if they are coming, would you have rather waited a few more months for them?

TACC is definitely one of those that is probably coming in a later release.

All you have to do is glance at the road periodically.
 

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This is first release for the Cybertruck. Whether or not the other features that you are looking for is coming is unknown, but if they are coming, would you have rather waited a few more months for them?

TACC is definitely one of those that is probably coming in a later release.

All you have to do is glance at the road periodically.
TACC is already on the truck. I'm not even saying autosteer plus cruise ("basic autopilot") and FSD both need to be immediately accessible. But TACC without autosteer does need to be accessible at the same time as FSD.

And no, I fully reject your assertion that there needed to be a choice between having it now without a super basic feature, or having it later but adding the feature. One press cruise, 2 press autosteer is a thing in every tesla vehicle since forever. There's no reason it would have added any time here. Someone I know with a model Y told me that the feature is also missing on his car now. You either get FSD, or any other form of cruise, but never both. That's just not acceptable. I hope he's wrong about that too, and he just missed the setting somewhere. Being able to optionally set it to one click FSD was cool when it came out. But removing the option to have a 2 click FSD... just no.
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