I had A pretty close call on FSD yesterday!

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

If anyone is familiar with the 5-point intersection in Whittier Cali. where Whittier Blvd. meets Washington Blvd. and Santa Fe springs Rd. I was traveling eastbound on Whitter Blvd. approaching the intersection on the left lane with two lanes available that continue straight. Light is green and traffic is moving slow on my lane so FSD decides to switch lanes at the last moment before entering the intersection only to see that the car in front on that lane is also making a last minute lane change into the lane i was just in and as he clears the way I see why he was changing lanes and if I don't slam on the brakes and intervein I would have done some serious damage to my CB. I was already thinking the way it changed lanes and started accelerating even before the car was completely out of the way was risky then saw what was in the roadway and realized it wasn't going to stop I had only a split second to react and avoid disaster. There were three very sturdy looking plastic composite pallets stacked like fallen dominos, and they just touched my front license plate. So don't get complacent it can still make mistakes that will cost you a lot of money to fix.

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[HaulingAss]

If anyone is familiar with the 5-point intersection in Whittier Cali. where Whittier Blvd. meets Washington Blvd. and Santa Fe springs Rd. I was traveling eastbound on Whitter Blvd. approaching the intersection on the left lane with two lanes available that continue straight. Light is green and traffic is moving slow on my lane so FSD decides to switch lanes at the last moment before entering the intersection only to see that the car in front on that lane is also making a last minute lane change into the lane i was just in and as he clears the way I see why he was changing lanes and if I don't slam on the brakes and intervein I would have done some serious damage to my CB. I already thinking the way it changed lanes and started accelerating even before the car was completely out of the way was risky then saw what was in the road way and realized it wasn't going to stop I had only a split second to react and avoid disaster. There were three very sturdy looking plastic composite pellets stacked like fallen dominos, and they just touched my front license plate. So don't get complacent it can still make mistakes that will cost you a lot of money to fix.

That's why Tesla tells you to not become complacent.

Even as good as FSD is, I don't let it do anything I'm not 100% comfortable with. Because things can go from bad to worse if you let it start putting yourself in a compromised position.

Glad you saved it in time.

 

[Jack27]

For those using FSD in the city god bless you. I did it once to show my grandmother. We were at a red light in the left hand turn lane the light turned green and my truck tried to go left right away ! there was on coming traffic as there light also turned green. It wasn’t an arrow light. It made me think maybe there use to be a green arrow at that intersection when they got data for it or somthing ? But it ain’t for me on the city.

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

I drew this diagram to illustrate what I found to be the most interesting and disturbing thing about the incident was how the pallets were stacked or more importantly is the direction of the stack! I don't see is how they fall out of a moving vehicle and fall in a direction that is 90 degrees to the travel direction. I think it's possible they were placed there intentionally, and they were just making sure to block the whole lane so you can't swerve around it and avoid it. And these were good quality pallets possibly made of fiberglass painted gloss white with red lettering. these didn't fall from a pallet collector type that go's around looking for wood pallets these are not the disposable kind the FSD never saw them I don't know if it even realized how close it came to fucking up my truck. I didn't even get an intervention feedback report notice nothing. how do I find out if it made a recording of that. I would like to review that and confirm the fall direction of the pallets. The part about the train in my diagram is that train tracks are directly above this point where the pallets were and it dose travel more or less in that direction. except they were under the tracks and a 30 foot fall its highly unlikely they all land touching each other let alone stacked how they were.

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

and I was actually showing my 78 yr old mother the FSD. I moved the car she drives the other day, and I can't believe how primitive and cumbersome it felt compared to the CB. she has a Nissan X-tera that's seen better days, but she likes it. honestly its trash compared to this.

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

I can even see how this could have been a deadly case if the pallets or a part of the pellet were to penetrate into the battery and start a runaway battery fire and how they were staked increased the chances of that happening because it's like a pike stake that they used against horses they place one end to the ground and point the other end to the horse and let the horses momentum do the rest. so very easily a notch or snag point on the under carriage can find the front end of a stick or rod in the pallet and your forward momentum will force the other end into the ground then its who is harder the ground or the car and how strong is that stick or pipe its length is also important too long and it won't catch on the ground and you'll drag it with you or you go over it too short and it will clear the ground flip off and get unsnagged with little damage but get one just the right length and it's probably about the width of a pallet to do maximum damage. pile drive through the car with ease. and then its good night, Irene.

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

I had the street names a little off on my diagram heres the corrected updated version.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

For those using FSD in the city god bless you. I did it once to show my grandmother. We were at a red light in the left hand turn lane the light turned green and my truck tried to go left right away ! there was on coming traffic as there light also turned green. It wasn’t an arrow light. It made me think maybe there use to be a green arrow at that intersection when they got data for it or somthing ? But it ain’t for me on the city.

We are on a road trip from the Bay Area to Sedona, AZ and I was letting FSD do the driving. It has been very good, for the most part (highway) but it has made some mistakes that required split-second control intervention. City driving? I’ll wait a bit longer. I watch several YouTube videos of FSD and they all make it seem ready, but it isn’t. MUCH better though.

 

[HaulingAss]

I can even see how this could have been a deadly case if the pellets or a part of the pellet were to penetrate into the battery and start a runaway battery fire and how they were staked increased the chances of that happening because it's like a pike stake that they used against horses they place one end to the ground and point the other end to the horse and let the horses momentum do the rest. so very easily a notch or snag point on the under carriage can find the front end of a stick or rod in the pellet and your forward momentum will force the other end into the ground then its who is harder the ground or the car and how strong is that stick or pipe its length is also important too long and it won't catch on the ground and you'll drag it with you or you go over it too short and it will clear the ground flip off and get unsnagged with little damage but get one just the right length and it's probably about the width of a pellet to do maximum damage. pile drive through the car with ease. and then its good night, Irene.

Those are called "pallets" not "pellets", if I understand what you are saying.

They were in full view, laying in the open on the road surface, right? I guess I don't see the big deal, you either drive around them, if you can, or you apply the brakes. Weird shit happens, that's why you remain alert. I've seen a lot worse stuff in the road than pallets. Don't over drive your vision. Was it foggy?

 

[Crissa]

I drew this diagram to illustrate what I found to be the most interesting and disturbing thing about the incident was how the pellets were stacked or more importantly is the direction of the stack! I don't see is how they fall out of a moving vehicle and fall in a direction that is 90 degrees to the travel direction. I think it's possible they were placed there intentionally, and they were just making sure to block the whole lane so you can't swerve around it and avoid it. And these were good quality pellets possibly made of fiberglass painted gloss white with red lettering. these didn't fall from a pellet collector type that go's around looking for wood pellets these are not the disposable kind the FSD never saw them I don't know if it even realized how close it came to fucking up my truck. I didn't even get an intervention feedback report notice nothing. how do I find out if it made a recording of that. I would like to review that and confirm the fall direction of the pellets. The part about the train in my diagram is that train tracks are directly above this point where the pellets were and it dose travel more or less in that direction. except they were under the tracks and a 30 foot fall its highly unlikely they all land touching each other let alone stacked how they were.

FSD is a little less wary of boxes (or box shaped objects) than perhaps it should be.

-Crissa

 

[Jack27]

I can even see how this could have been a deadly case if the pellets or a part of the pellet were to penetrate into the battery and start a runaway battery fire and how they were staked increased the chances of that happening because it's like a pike stake that they used against horses they place one end to the ground and point the other end to the horse and let the horses momentum do the rest. so very easily a notch or snag point on the under carriage can find the front end of a stick or rod in the pellet and your forward momentum will force the other end into the ground then its who is harder the ground or the car and how strong is that stick or pipe its length is also important too long and it won't catch on the ground and you'll drag it with you or you go over it too short and it will clear the ground flip off and get unsnagged with little damage but get one just the right length and it's probably about the width of a pellet to do maximum damage. pile drive through the car with ease. and then its good night, Irene.

You should be a movie writer

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

Nobody agrees with me and thinks that the way they were stacked is very unlikely to have fallen naturally that way? while obeying the laws of physics from a moving vehicle. i can understand it if it was not moving and they were stacked up a little bit skewed to the left and for some unknown reason fell straight down then they slide off to the left and the vehicle starts moving after they fall off. but where they lie is past the line already and that can only happen if the vehicle is already moving. and i strongly believe that they would never fall and stay lined up in the one direction where we should see the most diversion there is basically none. But we don't have to argue the details if there is evidence in video. I just need to know how to find and access it?

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

I'm going to try this right now on my computer!

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

So tried it I found nothing of the incident was recorded on the memory stick. a bunch of other videos on days and times before and after the incident. on the memory stick I found 3 sub-folders like the manual says 1) recent clips: it contains about 245 clips from the last 2hrs does me no good here 2) saved clips has about 10 folders from different days that go back to the fourth of this month 2 of them for today but nothing happened today (18th) but for the 17th what I need nothing. On the 16th there is 4 folders 1 on the 15th and 12th and 2 more on the 4th these folders each contain many videos but nothing for the incident that could have been very costly for me makes me very worried.
shouldn't it just record all FSD all the time and have much more length of time into the past saved and better priority awareness the last file 3) sentry videos has nothing useful

 

[Stuck4ger]

If something happens that you want to record, just tap the horn and it will save the previous 10 seconds. Or you can manually save it.

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