I had A pretty close call on FSD yesterday!

[R2B2]

100% agree with FSD. If you're in a situation where 'you' would put on the brakes or slow down, do so. FSD will most certainly plow right ahead. Plenty of situations I would have rear-ended someone.

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[kdn]

I just used FSD since mid November on city streets. After starting it my destination was just 1.5 miles away and a left turn coming 100 yards after starting FSD. Light is red. Truck stops. Green light and arrow come on and FSD waits to go and waits to go.... I apply pressure to accelerator and it gos only to turn to sharp into oncoming traffic and I had to veer to the right to avoid hitting an oncoming car. I like FSD but you must be totally aware and ready to "assist"

 

[DoberManPin-Sure]

I drew this diagram to illustrate what I found to be the most interesting and disturbing thing about the incident was how the pellets were stacked or more importantly is the direction of the stack! I don't see is how they fall out of a moving vehicle and fall in a direction that is 90 degrees to the travel direction. I think it's possible they were placed there intentionally, and they were just making sure to block the whole lane so you can't swerve around it and avoid it. And these were good quality pellets possibly made of fiberglass painted gloss white with red lettering. these didn't fall from a pellet collector type that go's around looking for wood pellets these are not the disposable kind the FSD never saw them I don't know if it even realized how close it came to fucking up my truck. I didn't even get an intervention feedback report notice nothing. how do I find out if it made a recording of that. I would like to review that and confirm the fall direction of the pellets. The part about the train in my diagram is that train tracks are directly above this point where the pellets were and it dose travel more or less in that direction. except they were under the tracks and a 30 foot fall its highly unlikely they all land touching each other let alone stacked how they were.

The diagram helps explain the scenario, including the small typo that threw me off--"pellets" instead of "pallets." I was think you guys have big "pellets" in CA! Glad you shared the story and avoided a really bad result and day.

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

$122.000 before tax and financing fees and they couldn't include enough memory to record all driving for a week or 2 even a month just record everything for a month. when it's been a month let us decide what to erase and what to save but have enough memory for a few months for backup.
I don't think that's too much to ask!

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

I am most disappointed with the fact that nothing got recorded. Even though it was an intervention event, and I had to take quick evasive action to avoid hitting a solid object the size of 3 people by slamming down on the brakes in a sudden deacceleration event and it touched my license plate. Then I had to back up and make enough room to go around the obstacle that is clearly blocking the road. avoid traffic from the rear. All this happened and no red flags went up. like whistling Miss Daisy nothing to worry about. Ignorance is bliss. If the FSD system did not even detect a problem at any point during this event before the intervention, during the intervention, or after. How will it ever get better at this kind of thing if it doesn't even know it made a crucial mistake. This kind of thing should take the utmost attention and review. but it needs to know it made a mistake and any intervention event should be considered a mistake worth further review especially one that would have caused damage to property or people.

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

You should be a movie writer

I don't even need to try. All I have to do is tell my life story up to now. Because I'm not done yet, but I lost track of how many times it was almost over. But the split-second reaction or thoughtful precaution that I took was the right one to save me. other times it was pure luck. I mean luck that I escaped unhurt. not that I got into that mess. someday I'll write a book about it.

 

[Garee]

I just used FSD since mid November on city streets. After starting it my destination was just 1.5 miles away and a left turn coming 100 yards after starting FSD. Light is red. Truck stops. Green light and arrow come on and FSD waits to go and waits to go.... I apply pressure to accelerator and it gos only to turn to sharp into oncoming traffic and I had to veer to the right to avoid hitting an oncoming car. I like FSD but you must be totally aware and ready to "assist"

DUH!

 

[kdn]

$122.000 before tax and financing fees and they couldn't include enough memory to record all driving for a week or 2 even a month just record everything for a month. when it's been a month let us decide what to erase and what to save but have enough memory for a few months for backup.
I don't think that's too much to ask!

I put in a larger memory stick

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

I put in a larger memory stick

yes, bigger memory stick is in order But I'm taking it another step further. I've installed my own independent dash cam from Garmin. Simply can't trust Tesla to have my best interest in mind.
If you're not making sure everything is in order working and turned on so your covered, you better start and check every time you drive because Tesla don't give A shit what happens to you and if you're protected.

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

I can understand how easily you can get into imminent danger now while using FSD. situations that you yourself would never get into due to how you drive. Things that humans do like gestures or common courtesies, certain recuring conditions that you know to avoid. when to be aggressive and when to yield. anyway, I was lucky I had barely enough time and space to stop. and I made the right choice. let's be honest force someone into a situation where they must make a discission quickly under pressure of horrible danger and a lot of times panic will cause them to make the wrong choice. You must decide quickly but you know there is not enough time to think about it so they just go with the first thing they see and some will just freeze. But even if you are a quick thinker and attention is sharp and ready there will be a case when you just had no time to do anything but brace yourself. My question is shouldn't liability for such an event fall back on tesla. even though you are supervising there was nothing you could have done to save it even if your Michael Andretti
and have the skills and reflexes of a formula one driver. It's their design and discissions that led to the incident, and you had no chance of recovery. why should the user be held responsible for their mistakes?
I mean it would not be very much unlike telling your 8-year-old " come on your driving us to the store don't worry I'll be right here to save us if you do anything stupid. just drive quickly and make a lot of lane changes if someone's in your way just step on it, they will move out of the way. of course, without the putting a child in danger part. just the innocent carefree part. At least in the latter you can still claim as a dependent. oh one more thing Jr. if someting is not moving, that means its not alive so just ignore it you cant kill something twice. now lets go hurry!

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

no one going to comment anything about what I'm saying. What did I scare you?

 

[REM]

Tesla don't give A shit what happens to you and if you're protected.

Clearly nonsense. I was skeptical of your entire story as you want to place 100% blame on FSD and the idea that it nearly killed you.

Yet here we are, someone who isn't competent enough to understand how to work the dashcam feature of the vehicle.

Next time bring video proof. Otherwise, your story is nonsense.

p.s. - you are responsible for supervising FSD. Have you read the actual terms of service? No?

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

Clearly nonsense. I was skeptical of your entire story as you want to place 100% blame on FSD and the idea that it nearly killed you.

Yet here we are, someone who isn't competent enough to understand how to work the dashcam feature of the vehicle.

Next time bring video proof. Otherwise, your story is nonsense.

p.s. - you are responsible for supervising FSD. Have you read the actual terms of service? No?

Thank you for sharing your opinion! Now allow me to respond. Now you're calling me a Lier and incompetent enough to work a dash cam! That Is total nonsense. The fact that I do not have any evidence of this Life-threatening event! Is precisely the topic of my argument. while driving in FSD a vehicle that comes equipped with something like around 15 cameras. news flash FSD requieres cameras to work and they automatically record at least 10 mins back from any incident. So, the fact that any footage of this potentially deadly event is missing only one day latter is uncomprehensible to me. I have lots of video before and after the event on days that nothing happened, I have an overabundance of footage. which means I must know how to turn on the camara. video should have been saved and flagged as important automatically instead the opposite was done (remove and destroy quickly!) considering the details as I described. did I read the terms of service?
yes, I know that the supervising driver is responsible for the car's stupid moves. I am just pointing out that maybe it shouldn't be that way!

 

[REM]

Thank you for sharing your opinion! Now allow me to respond. Now you're calling me a Lier and incompetent enough to work a dash cam! That Is total nonsense. The fact that I do not have any evidence of this Life-threatening event! Is precisely the topic of my argument. while driving in FSD a vehicle that comes equipped with something like around 15 cameras. news flash FSD requieres cameras to work and they automatically record at least 10 mins back from any incident. So, the fact that any footage of this potentially deadly event is missing only one day latter is uncomprehensible to me. I have lots of video before and after the event on days that nothing happened, I have an overabundance of footage. which means I must know how to turn on the camara. video should have been saved and flagged as important automatically instead the opposite was done (remove and destroy quickly!) considering the details as I described. did I read the terms of service?
yes, I know that the supervising driver is responsible for the car's stupid moves. I am just pointing out that maybe it shouldn't be that way!

There aren't 15 cameras. And it's baffling to me that you think anyone is going to believe you are competent enough to own an $80,000+ vehicle, which happens to be the most technologically advanced in the entire world, and you don't know how to save a dashcam clip with honk of the horn or a press of the button?

Furthermore, even if your story is true, I doubt you aren't engaging in quite a lot of embellishment. Not to mention the fact that YOU are responsible for the vehicles actions. Not FSD. Not autopilot. Not cruise control.

Telsa didn't delete your dashcam footage. You should probably not use the program if you can't react fast enough to prevent an aberrant event from happening.

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

To Rem. who the hell do you think you are? I'll tell you, your one of those ass kissers who resort to insults and mockery making snap judgments and putting labels on someone when they don't like what is being said even if it's true. living in denial my truck cost me $122,000 not $80,000 and I paid cash if those are the metrics you use to judge a person, I'm just wasting my time with your childish whining. All you try and do is shift focus from the important issues to stupid things like I misspelled a word or the way i wrote something.

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