Rumored Cybertruck Configurations - Dual, Quad, and PLAID

[John K]

I can live with my CyberTruck "only" doing 0-60 in 5 seconds. LOL. My god, who needs more acceleration than that....

Note, will never drag someone off a streetlight. No pleasure there for me.

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[intimidator]

Agree with the comment above about trailer batteries being a bad idea, but not just for the weight penalty. Batteries are the most expensive part of an EV. It's wasteful and inefficient to put a battery pack large enough to make a difference in a trailer that sits around not doing anything most of the time. Also, it would be a pain to have to charge the TV and trailer. Far better to have a usable range in the TV and more accessible and speedy charging stations.

The lack of pull through SC stalls is as big of a problem as range, IMHO. But like most folks here, the 500 mile unladen/300 mile towing range is by far my #1 priority for CT.

When I placed my order for a TriMotor in November 2019, because of the 500 mile range, I really thought I would have said truck at the end of 2021. That was the "promise".

Now I question when, and IF, we will get a 500 mile range CT.

Lucid, who do have some excellent battery pack engineering, is at 520 mile of range, but that is for a smaller vehicle with a much better drag coefficient and better tires for range.

Getting to 500 miles of range in a Cybertruck is going to take a massive, massive battery pack. Which is heavy. Tesla does not have a magic battery chemistry, so we will see if 2023 reveals a long range CT or not.

 

[intimidator]

Note, will never drag someone off a streetlight. No pleasure there for me.

I have a Ford F150, and have no idea have fast it goes 0-60. Never tried it. Don't need to.

I did ride in a Ford F150 EV Lightning. The Ford driver launched it....he said we did 0-60 in 4.5 seconds....the G forces felt greater than that. It really was fast. I had no interest in doing those launches. Gimme range.

 

[Monchyto]

 

[rr6013]

Note, will never drag someone off a streetlight. No pleasure there for me.

Only need for that kind of raw power is towing. When the trailer gets loose(read traction) and the power unit(CT) powers through and out of danger, trailer and load.

Towing, 11° is point of no return. Driver has microsecs to react to keep that rig together and back in line. Had one iced curve at the bottom of a farm draw where the tractor went thru a wiggle that amplified as the loaded trailer went thru the same patch of ice. The only other was braking in snow where trailer locked up MTY started to go out of line. Diesel both times powered out.

 

[Dusty]

Overall towing power will correlate to speed since there are no gears. For perspective, the fastest helicopter in the U.S. Army is the CH-47 cargo helicopter when not carrying anything. All of the power it usually uses for lifting cargo just turns into available thrust when it's unladed.

Also 4-wheel steering helps in steering stability and traction so the power when not towing should stay usable if they do it right. TFL did a video on 4-wheel steering that covers all of that.

 

[SentinelOne]

"and he loses control"
"so the power when not towing should stay usable"

If my M3P is an indicator - Tesla's "control" and "traction" and "usability" are very well at hand....I can drive like a hoon, launch hard, brake hard, 100 mile mountain twisties very aggressively - all zero issue, very, very little wheel slip or even tire noise at all - absolutely planted and in control 100% at all times, even when pushed hard....exception being track mode and turning down the safety net

I guess my point is - a truck's main purpose isn't drag racing, but it's not a bad conciliation prize and since I need the max tow rating (4 motor), I'll take the benefit of it also being fast as hell

 

[Zapharus]

Not sure if many of you have ever road trip'd in the United States in a Tesla, but range is not going to be as big a problem as you think. SCs are are so prevalent and popping up all over the place all the time. Now, if you plan to try and stay off grid, do your own thing in a CT, it is going to be difficult for you. That is not part of Tesla's business model and charging at a SC is integral to that.

We just did 2,900 miles in wifey's Y and it was great, much better than I thought it would be. The CT will be much less efficient than a X, but I still think it will be fine if you do your part, plan your routes, and don't think you can be Mario Andretti and defy physics with how you drive...

Hopeful that the above info does play out, they (as they have done in the past) just switch orders to whatever the like is, and even more hopefully don't increase the price. Wish us all luck!

SS

I’ve taken a road trip in a Model Y from northern California to Arizona (741 miles) and although it is super convenient having SCs being so prevalent across the U.S., it did make the trip longer by 2.5 hours each way.

2.5 hours is not that much of a difference under normal conditions, but when you factor in towing, having to use A/C, etc., then having to constantly stop to charge that similar travel will considerably increase by more than 2.5 hours.

So yes, range in a vehicle that some of us will use as a utility vehicle (as Tesla claimed it would be during their unveil) is certainly VERY important.

 

[Zapharus]

Too many issues outfitting a trailer with heavy batteries. It reduces the allowed load rating and you might as well have the batteries in the CT. I like the idea of a reserve battery but in a Jan 2020 article the lightest Tesla battery pack (Model 3) still weighed over 1000 lbs. This weight drops the trailer's allowed load weight because the GVWR just reduced the load by half a ton. Add the additional structural weight required to mount the battery and you're losing even more load capacity. Sure, Tesla (and others) could build an ultralight trailer but if you're carrying a heavy load of rocks, dirts, machinery, you need something that isn't only light but structurally strong.

Of course if you only want to carry a reserve battery pack, buy a used UHaul Sport trailer or something similar, and outfit it with batteries. I actually rented one of these a long time ago.

I didn't know these existed. It looks like a chopped off rear half of a sports car.

 

[Crissa]

Charging doesn't make a lot of noise, so I think they would just keep sleeping anyway.

The physical act of stopping tends to wake up. Still, with 250 miles of range that's four hours of driving. Hardly anyone's bladder goes that far. It's more like two on the freeway, but that's still a long way for a bladder.

-Crissa

 

[Mrp911]

I want AWD and range. That is why I ordered the tri-motor. 500+ range. We all know range depletes over time. Mayb 75% after 8 years. 0-60 in low 4’s is plenty fast. Towing 5000lbs is plenty as well.
Quad long range 420+ and AWD is enough for me.

 

[Throwcomputer]

The physical act of stopping tends to wake up. Still, with 250 miles of range that's four hours of driving. Hardly anyone's bladder goes that far. It's more like two on the freeway, but that's still a long way for a bladder.

-Crissa

You must not long distance drive much. If I have to stop 2 hrs after I previously stopped.. I consider myself wasting time. I'm happy when I stop no less than 4 hrs after my last stop.

I thought I had a tiny bladder at 4 hrs!

 

[No-mo-ice]

A plaid would bring a whole new meaning to high speed off-roading!

 

[Crissa]

You must not long distance drive much. If I have to stop 2 hrs after I previously stopped.. I consider myself wasting time. I'm happy when I stop no less than 4 hrs after my last stop.

I thought I had a tiny bladder at 4 hrs!

You should probably stop. I can go four, especially the first hop, but it's not healthy.

-Crissa

PS, I just did 13.5 hours after being up 16, and that wasn't safe; so I stopped fairly frequently to stretch. We should always endeavor to drive safely, not just quickly.

 

[empiredown]

I’ve taken a road trip in a Model Y from northern California to Arizona (741 miles) and although it is super convenient having SCs being so prevalent across the U.S., it did make the trip longer by 2.5 hours each way.

2.5 hours is not that much of a difference under normal conditions, but when you factor in towing, having to use A/C, etc., then having to constantly stop to charge that similar travel will considerably increase by more than 2.5 hours.

So yes, range in a vehicle that some of us will use as a utility vehicle (as Tesla claimed it would be during their unveil) is certainly VERY important.

I didn't say it wasn't important. I said it wouldn't be a problem. Again, there are physical laws which bind what freedom we have. Sorry to break it to you kiddo... If you want to tow a bunch of stuff and you don't want to stop to pay the piper, then look elsewhere. I am sure a nice, torquey diesel will suit you just fine... Or just get off your wallet, pay for a Plaid, and don't drive it like a tool.

That's also not a road trip. That's next door. ;-) Texas, baby! If you were stopping for 2.5 hrs over 750 miles, I'd love to know what you were getting in efficiency. Here are our figures:

What you got?

SS

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