Starlink Lights up Ukraine Internet. (PS Does this Count as Advertising?)

[John K]

Since the previous watch came out recently still in support of Putin and called the action of invading Ukraine ”smart”, how exactly would the invasion be prevented by the previous watch?

In complaint about paid media, I would raise, a viewer not watching only what they want to believe and believing only what they wish to believe.

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[Ogre]

Looks like they are lighting it up. Appears to be a fair number of terminals in there.

 

[Crissa]

I did a bit of RF jamming while I was a student, its easier than you think, and the Russians are pros at it, possibly better than we are.

RF jamming is less effective on directed energy like microwaves. You'd have to be above the dishes between it and the satellites. Much more difficult.

Looks like they are lighting it up. Appears to be a fair number of terminals in there.

Now that is putting your money where your mouth is.

-Crissa

 

[CyberGus]

Now that is putting your money where your mouth is.
-Crissa

Elon has plenty of both

 

[Zabhawkin]

RF jamming is less effective on directed energy like microwaves. You'd have to be above the dishes between it and the satellites. Much more difficult.

-Crissa

Unless you jam the satellites themselves.

 

[Crissa]

Elon has plenty of both

Too much, one might say.

-Crissa

 

[Ogre]

Unless you jam the satellites themselves.

There is an 1800 satellite array spread across the entire skyline.

Good luck with that.

 

[Bill906]

Unless you jam the satellites themselves.

 

[Crissa]

Unless you jam the satellites themselves.

...Again, you'd have to be in the path between the two. The whole point of the directed panels is that they focus on just the part of the sky/ground they want, like a lens. In real time. Just sending noise from a single spot won't do it. And then the satellites themselves will have laser interlinks, which are even more narrow.

The energy required to intercept/outshine these will be massive, and the coordination immense. Far, more than cutting a few fiber cables and breaking dishes.

The complexity to intervene has now increased exponentially several steps.

-Crissa

 

[Zabhawkin]

There is an 1800 satellite array spread across the entire skyline.

Good luck with that.

...Again, you'd have to be in the path between the two. The whole point of the directed panels is that they focus on just the part of the sky/ground they want, like a lens. Just sending noise from a single spot won't do it. And then the satellites themselves will have laser interlinks, which are even more narrow.

The energy required to intercept/outshine these will be massive, and the coordination immense. Far, more than cutting a few fiber cables and breaking dishes.

The complexity to intervene has now increased exponentially several steps.

-Crissa

Ogre, less than half will be visible at any given point in time. But that is besides the point they could have 1 million in view and it wouldn't make a difference.

Crissa, no you don't the satellites have a wide angle antenna, and anything pointed at them with sufficient power will make them useless, they don't even technically have to be in the field of view, the beam width is for the 3db below peak power they still receive even far to the sides.

Yes it will take a lot of power pumped into a lot of the sky but Russia has access to that capability.

 

[Zabhawkin]

Raspberry! Only one man would dare give me the raspberry!

My boss at the time I was involved in Electronic Warfare came in with a bag of parts and a wiring diagram and told me to build it and don't make it pretty, make it look like some A-hole built it in their garage. I did so, and apparently he had an argument with a General about whether or not GPS can be jammed where the General made similar arguments (Jamming GPS is easier by the way). So he goes into the Generals office and asks him to check his GPS, which didn't work then pulled the jammer out of his shirt pocket and dropped it on his desk.

 

[Ogre]

Ogre, less than half will be visible at any given point in time. But that is besides the point they could have 1 million in view and it wouldn't make a difference.

Assuming it were possible (I’m not agreeing), it would require some sort of advanced planning which the Russian’s Ukraine strategy is so rely lacking.

These idiots thought they were going to march in and have the country conquered in 2 days. The idea they would have to deal with information blackouts and logistics for more than a couple of days of fighting seems entirely alien to their leadership.

Western generals are floored at how completely incompetent this attack has been. The idea they could coordinate some kind of large scale satellite blackout as part of this is laughable. If they have the wherewithall to stay with it, I’m sure they will beat Ukraine down by sheer numbers and military strength.

 

[Zabhawkin]

Assuming it were possible (I’m not agreeing), it would require some sort of advanced planning which the Russian’s Ukraine strategy is so rely lacking.

These idiots thought they were going to march in and have the country conquered in 2 days. The idea they would have to deal with information blackouts and logistics for more than a couple of days of fighting seems entirely alien to their leadership.

Western generals are floored at how completely incompetent this attack has been. The idea they could coordinate some kind of large scale satellite blackout as part of this is laughable. If they have the wherewithall to stay with it, I’m sure they will beat Ukraine down by sheer numbers and military strength.

Agreed that they massively underestimated the Ukrainian defenses, heck the fact that they haven't even managed air superiority yet has surprised me. But give them time this looks like it may take months they might bring it to bear.

My dad used to be a ham radio operator, I remember on occasion he would try to use it and only get the Russian woodpecker on all frequencies. This was practically on the other side of the earth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duga_radar

 

[Ogre]

Agreed that they massively underestimated the Ukrainian defenses, heck the fact that they haven't even managed air superiority yet has surprised me. But give them time this looks like it may take months they might bring it to bear.

My dad used to be a ham radio operator, I remember on occasion he would try to use it and only get the Russian woodpecker on all frequencies. This was practically on the other side of the earth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duga_radar

There is pretty much zero chance Ukraine can hold out against Russia. Their only hope is that Russia decides they don’t want to stomach a prolonged war and withdraws.

Or… someone in Russia overthrows their insane dictator.

 

[Zabhawkin]

There is pretty much zero chance Ukraine can hold out against Russia. Their only hope is that Russia decides they don’t want to stomach a prolonged war and withdraws.

Or… someone in Russia overthrows their insane dictator.

Anything is possible, it also seems many Russian troops are not fully behind it, especially when they find out that they aren't actually liberating the country from a Nazi style government like they were told.

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