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[Crissa]

Uphill both ways?

To be serious, there is a point at which the speed high or incline of the road is such that your benefit from the hill is greatly reduced. And if you have to actually use friction braking, well, that's just lost, too.

-Crissa

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[Ogre]

Well, not for the trip back, LOL. Seriously though, a common trip for us is Prescott and back, which takes like 50% to get there and only 20% back (made up numbers but close). I could see downhill towing actually adding a ton of miles.

Uphill both ways?

I was assuming pull the boat uphill, camp and boat a couple days (which runs down the battery) and come home. Unless it’s literally downhill the whole return.

Also, if you have a heavy trailer and trailer brakes, that’s not going into your regenerative braking.

 

[CyberGus]

I was assuming pull the boat uphill, camp and boat a couple days (which runs down the battery) and come home. Unless it’s literally downhill the whole return.

Also, if you have a heavy trailer and trailer brakes, that’s not going into your regenerative braking.

Ya'll are pissin' on my parade today geez

 

[Ogre]

Ya'll are pissin' on my parade today geez

Which way is the wind blowing?

 

[CyberGus]

Which way is the wind blowing?

I'm downwind, man, it's always downwind

 

[Firetruck41]

Not sure if this is the correct forum article but was watching an Electrified youtube video and he showed Musk saying "When fully loaded, the Tesla Semi should be able to achieve over 500 miles of range." To me that means the range of the Semi is based not on an empty trailer but a full one. My hope is Tesla will design the CT the same way, which they could do if they designed the battery size the same way they're designing the Semi's battery.

The problem is that there is no standardized consumer trailer by which to rate it. A boat/trailer, a fifth wheel trailer, a flatbed trailer hauling a load of steel, a dump trailer filled with sand... All could weigh the same, and yet have massively different range/energy consumption.

 

[Ogre]

The problem is that there is no standardized consumer trailer by which to rate it. A boat/trailer, a fifth wheel trailer, a flatbed trailer hauling a load of steel, a dump trailer filled with sand... All could weigh the same, and yet have massively different range/energy consumption.

The guys on the Now You Know YouTube Channel seem to be working their way through buying all the trucks. It would be a good project for them to benchmark all the various trucks along a fixed ~100 mile loop with various trailers on each truck.

(Those guys kind of annoy me, but they also have some decent content)

 

[CyberGus]

(Those guys kind of annoy me, but they also have some decent content)

kinda like being here

 

[SpaceYooper]

My towing experience driving from Colorado Springs to Lake McConaughey, NE.

Tow vehicle: 2013 F150, 3.5L ecoboost, leveled with 35s.

MPGs before hooking up the trailer

Smallish camper being towed

Avg MPGs for the round trip while towing

561.3 mile round trip averaging 6.4 MPGs.
It wasn't just towing the camper that cut into the MPGs (It rarely is though, so these numbers are typical) The truck bed was full of fire wood and beverages.

 

[SpaceYooper]

Oh...and I got about 7 MPGs going to the lake and about 6 MPGs coming back. It seems like it just rolling hills on the 280 mile drive but there is about a 3500 ft change in elevation.

 

[Crissa]

Smallish camper being towed

That is quite a bit larger than a 'small' trailer. ?

-Crissa

 

[SpaceYooper]

I said "smallish".

At 20' and a dry weight of 3100lbs it's smallish. Smaller then at least 1/2 the towed campers in the park we were at.

I rented this smallish camper because our intent was to actually camp on the beach in the sand. Long story short, that didn't happen. But it was still a good trip.

 

[Crissa]

I said "smallish".

At 20' and a dry weight of 3100lbs it's smallish. Smaller then at least 1/2 the towed campers in the park we were at.

I rented this smallish camper because our intent was to actually camp on the beach in the sand. Long story short, that didn't happen. But it was still a good trip.

But it's longer and taller than most trucks, let alone trailers. It's in no way small at all, except maybe in weight. But that weight clearly doesn't count the contents of the trailer.

Smaller than trailers in a camp is... Well, it's smaller than the vast majority of mobile homes, too.

-Crissa

 

[SwampNut]

That's almost as small as our little TT. It's a 17' body and 20 OAL with tongue, probably 3500 loaded up and it's just under 3k unloaded. On average, quite a bit smaller than most that I see. From a friend's experience with his lightning, a trailer like the one above and mine would kill around 40% of range. My friend is losing nearly 50% and his trailer is a bit bigger and heavier.

 

[SpaceYooper]

But that weight clearly doesn't count the contents of the trailer.

GVWR is like 4500lbs fully loaded to include water. Smaller then most of the campers in the campground makes it smallish. At about 1/2 of my trucks towing capabilities also makes it smaller..."easy" to tow for my truck. And yet it still cut my mileage in 1/2. The point is, towing kills mileage. Trucks are made to tow bigger things. EV trucks need a 500+ mile variant. I hope Tesla and RAM make one ASAP...along with the other companies, but right now those are the only two talking about it.

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