Cybertruck crash that killed 3 college students in SF Bay Area blamed on drunk driving, drugs, speeding

[REM]

Fast truck with a unexperienced drunk driver and a sprinkle of cocaine = A accident waiting to happen.

What happened wasn't an accident. I was a negligent wreck, caused by extremely irresponsible people.

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[REM]

The Cybertruck’s regenerative braking causes deadly o̶v̶e̶r̶s̶t̶e̶e̶r̶ understeer in a panic situation.

Skill issue. The regen is perfect.

 

[CyberTrk]

If the CT went to a complete stop, how fast can the CT had reach after 220 feet (67 meters)?

 

[Mal]

It's been too many hours since coffee for me to manually do the math but both ChatGPT and Gemini say, assuming constant acceleration, that a Beast (0-60 in 2.6 seconds) would hit 83 MPH in 220 feet.

AWD (0-60 in 3.9) would be 68 MPH in 220 feet.

Seems crazy, but ?‍.

 

[ModelXer]

True but being a you guy I hope it his last word were not watch this. You have to have respect for the cybertruck speed. It doesn't feel as fast as it is going.

That's the case in all of the EVs I've driven and many high performance ICE cars. You're going faster than you realize. Not an excuse for DUI, but so sad for the others in the truck and their families.

 

[Cybrtr808]

The loss of life is very tragic. At the same time a lessons again that alcohol and drugs don’t mix with traffic.

One question I have is who was the owner of the Cybertruck and let him, Dixon, drive it after they came back from a party? Or maybe he just took it from his home, parents didn’t see him?

Unfortunately was authorized to drive the truck. Was one of the kid’s grandfather’s truck. As mentioned alcohol + cocaine is deadly - 3 kids were in young 20 s - 4th kid was pulled out of the truck by a buddy who was following the CT.
I know someone that lives couple blocks from the accident site.

 

[mongo]

If the CT went to a complete stop, how fast can the CT had reach after 220 feet (67 meters)?

A Beast could achieve 60-80 MPH in that distance based on its 2.6s 0-60 time

 

[CyberTrk]

A Beast could achieve 60-80 MPH in that distance based on its 2.6s 0-60 time

I live very close by and I was very surprised about the location of this accident,
because the area is flat, the roads are very wide and the visibility is great.

I was in fact thinking that the accident could have happened on Oakland Avenue,
which is very long and very inclined road, with a slope of about 10%. This is the most direct
way to go from the Piedmont Hills High School area to downtown Oakland or the freeway.

I was wondering if the the driver of the CT did in fact stop or slow down at the intersection
stop sign to reach such reported high speed ? Maybe the driver was distracted, like looking
at the rearview mirror to check if the other vehicle was following him,
but this is just a supposition .

 

[Ljhughes8]

I want to see the dash cam. After seeing the picture he launched or he was flying before he got there being so early in the morning .

 

[Ljhughes8]

Unfortunately was authorized to drive the truck. Was one of the kid’s grandfather’s truck. As mentioned alcohol + cocaine is deadly - 3 kids were in young 20 s - 4th kid was pulled out of the truck by a buddy who was following the CT.
I know someone that lives couple blocks from the accident site.

Parental mode probably would have saved him. Since he wasn't used to it .

The loss of life is very tragic. At the same time a lessons again that alcohol and drugs don’t mix with traffic.

One question I have is who was the owner of the Cybertruck and let him, Dixon, drive it after they came back from a party? Or maybe he just took it from his home, parents didn’t see him?

And could have had fsd get him home. Not recommended but it could have.

 

[yishen]

I'm not an expert on EV fires but I've read about similar crashes before. From what I understand, the main battery not catching fire is actually pretty common when the battery pack stays intact during the crash. The fire probably came from something more conventional like brake fluid, wiring shorts, or passenger compartment fluids mixing with hot debris from the impact. Fire Chief Brannigan saying it was 'more like a typical car fire' makes sense if it wasn't battery thermal runaway.

I went through a DUI case a few years back and learned how important crash investigation reports are for these cases. The fire analysis and crash mechanics can be really complex. If anyone is dealing with DUI charges and needs help, Stan Wruble DUI lawyer knows how to work with crash investigation reports and fire analysis. He helped me understand all the technical stuff during my case.

But for this specific crash, it's pretty clear what happened. Drunk driver at 0.195% BAC, on cocaine, speeding. Not a vehicle defect issue at all.

 

[hemiarch]

Very sad. The great tragedy of this stuff nowadays is that it’s entirely preventable with technology like FSD. It’s a bit like dying of sepsis after the invention of antibiotics or being paralyzed by polio in the post-salk era. The incidence will hopefully decrease exponentially as society adopts these technologies more and more.
Cars in general are flammable in high energy collisions. They are made of many combustible components. Plastics, cloth, electrical components outside the main battery like the low voltage auxiliary systems and yes…coolant at a high enough temperature. @CyberGus is right about that. The vast majority of ICE car fires don’t involve the gas tank either just like this accident did not involve the high voltage battery.
That doesn’t necessarily mean electrical energy didn’t play a role in ignition though. It just means the high energy cells themselves were not on fire which would make the fire MUCH more difficult to put out. I think that’s all the fire chief was trying to say.

 

[CyberGus]

The MV battery is in the firewall, right below the windshield in the center. So you could have a 48V "thermal runaway" without HV pack involvement.

However, it seems to me that a collision violent enough to reach the MV battery is not survivable regardless.

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