Cybertruck FSD drives me into a lamp post!!

[dw321]

My experience has been that certain round-a-bouts are trouble for FSD and I don't know why. We have one in my town where it gets it right about half the time and the other times it seems to stutter and get confused. I have finally just taken over when I drive that round-a-bout because its just to sketchy with FSD. It still needs some work.

Like I said, it is "Supervised" but I use it 99% of the time.

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[zoepup]

I have noticed an increase of indecision jitters over the past two weeks as well. Each time I took control. I'm not sure why it works so well for the first 4 weeks of ownership than gets the jittters? Is it CTParkinsons?

 

[M0unt41nm4n]

Like I said, it is "Supervised" but I use it 99% of the time.

Yeah Sherlock, I know it's supervised. So I "supervise" it through round-a-bouts.

 

[BrockN]

I had an opportunity to try it in my Y Model a couple of times. I didn't like it despite being in Chill mode. The acceleration, braking, going around corners and making right turns on red without a full stop was much how my teenage grandson drives.

Full stops were programmed in quite a while ago, because the government got sticky about it. If you were using HW3 in the Y, you weren't using the same FSD firmware that's in the truck (and HW4 vehicles).

After 4000 km of V14, I'm at 90% usage. And that's here in Canada, on snow covered roads, city, highway. Other than a few instances like the one OP described, it's extremely good. It's still "supervised", so little glitches like that need you to be paying attention. But overall, I'd say it's safer than the average driver now.

 

[Jbrazda]

I’ve had the exact same thing happen.

 

[jimbaum]

I have never seen my FSD not make a full stop and then move cautiously forward if needed.

Me too. The only time it doesn't stop is where there is NO stop sign (i.e., an yield sign or nothing). Thus, coming out of parking lots onto a major street, it may not come to a complete stop, like a stop sign.

 

[PungoteagueDave]

Interesting that none of the usual fanbois have chimed in here to blame OP or cut and paste their repeated defenses of all things Tesla/Elon. Thanks for posting.

 

[sys700]

Looks like it got into a bit of indecision and started left-right oscillating before you took over?

I had that happen entering a parking lot. The entry lane was at 45 degrees to the layout of the aisles, if you can picture that. The entry pointed us at a car parked at the end of an aisle. FSD couldn't decide whether to adjust left and go down that aisle, or adjust right and take the lane that caps the aisles. It jerked the wheel back and forth and continued toward the car, so I took over.

The same sort of thing happened a couple of weeks later, in a different place. It really feels like it gets into a bit of indecision panic and instead of choosing a direction, just continues toward the obstacle. These two instances have triggered the only safety related interventions I've had to make in 3600 km of FSD use.

Mine had a seizure the other day getting onto a highway onramp. The oncoming car was just out of range, and it was slowing down, even though it had the green. So my truck wasn't sure to turn in front quickly, or wait. I had to take over, and gunned it.

 

[CyberGus]

Interesting that none of the usual fanbois have chimed in here to blame OP or cut and paste their repeated defenses of all things Tesla/Elon. Thanks for posting.

I was expecting that myself, but the OP brought receipts (video clip).

I considered suggesting he repeat the test without intervening to see if it would really hit the pole or not, but thought better of it hahahaha

I've definitely experienced the FSD "wobble of indecision" but never where I needed to intervene.

 

[Fugue]

I haven't seen a parking option for "lamp post."

I kid.

The stuttering can be pretty jarring, and I have taken over a few times. Happy to see that OP caught it in time.

 

[Cyberham]

I’ve had the exact same thing happen.

Oh Good! (Sarcastic) Im not alone!

Question is, did you just leave a pub? I fear my cybertruck is always watching and doesnt like it when I have a cold one

 

[TyPope]

My truck did that while making a left turn onto a two lane highway but did not aim for a light pole. Just had a hard time deciding what lane to be in... FSD is no where near ready for unsupervised. On a major highway, the truck decides the speed limit is not 40mph instead of the posted 55 mph. What do you do, besides take over? The speed profiles and no usable in the current configuration. Sloth mode is the speed limit, chill is 2 mph over (in 55 mph zone) and STANDARD is 15-20 mph over in a 55 mph zone. WTF! I don't even try hurry and mad max any more, I don't need any tickets.
Sloth mode should be 5 mph under, chill should be 2 mph under, standard should be the speed limit, hurry could be 5-8 mph over, and mad max could be 10-12 mph over but MOST IMPORTANT, make the scroll wheel adjust the speed the way it had been, one indent is one MPH, a brisk roll up is 5 mph and the same for speed reduction. I am taking another trip down south and I am wondering if FSD ((stupid-ized), see what I did there?) will be setting me up for tickets?

TLDR: Dude, fewer words. Okay, fine. Roll back, relax, roll forward. Tesla should rename the "Speed Profiles" "Agression Profiles"


Speed profiles are not really speed profiles. They are aggression profiles.

Hear me out. It's how your CT behaves. You select: It acts.

Standard: Yeah, I'm closing that gap. Oh, someone is signaling to enter the highway, sure.
Hurry: I'm hustling. Someone's signaling to enter? I'm changing lanes to keep our speed.
Chill: Whatever. Sure, come on over. I'll slow down and let you in. Then, I'm going to just hang out in this lane behind you and chill.
Mad Max: Here we go! Every gap! Every chance to go a bit quicker!
Sloth: (maybe the only one speed related) Yeah, I'm not going a mile per hour over that limit. It's the limit for a reason. Let's just do that.

I've found out how to make the settings work for me. No matter which I pick (other than Sloth), Fluffy can and will eventually get up to too fast for my comfort. The settings just basically tell how long it'll take to get up to that speed, traffic and conditions permitting.

What I've found that works every single time, is simple.

If I'm in Hurry mode because I don't want to slow way down on my long ass commute, I'll wait until Fluffy gets going too fast. I scroll down to Standard for just a fraction of a second or a bit longer until the speed has bled off. Then, I just scroll back to Hurry (or Standard, or whatever mode I was in before). It seems this resets my tolerance level for that selection on this road in these conditions and Fluffy stays within my speed comfort zone. For quite a long time.

Mad Max mode has it's uses for me. There's a section of my commute which is right where most people take a light to enter a new road. We've been going 65 or so. The new road is 45 at the start but you wouldn't know it. Fluffy thinks it's 35mph for some reason. There's no sign and we are NOT in a residential area. My CT quickly changes to 45 in about 1/8 mile but to avoid going so slow, I flip on Mad Max mode for that 1/8-mile, and it keeps up.

Correction: I USED to use Mad Max there. My last 3 commute days, Fluffy maintained right around 55 there so I let her go.

 

[65SoYoLO]

TLDR: Dude, fewer words. Okay, fine. Roll back, relax, roll forward. Tesla should rename the "Speed Profiles" "Agression Profiles"


Speed profiles are not really speed profiles. They are aggression profiles.

Hear me out. It's how your CT behaves. You select: It acts.

Standard: Yeah, I'm closing that gap. Oh, someone is signaling to enter the highway, sure.
Hurry: I'm hustling. Someone's signaling to enter? I'm changing lanes to keep our speed.
Chill: Whatever. Sure, come on over. I'll slow down and let you in. Then, I'm going to just hang out in this lane behind you and chill.
Mad Max: Here we go! Every gap! Every chance to go a bit quicker!
Sloth: (maybe the only one speed related) Yeah, I'm not going a mile per hour over that limit. It's the limit for a reason. Let's just do that.

I've found out how to make the settings work for me. No matter which I pick (other than Sloth), Fluffy can and will eventually get up to too fast for my comfort. The settings just basically tell how long it'll take to get up to that speed, traffic and conditions permitting.

What I've found that works every single time, is simple.

If I'm in Hurry mode because I don't want to slow way down on my long ass commute, I'll wait until Fluffy gets going too fast. I scroll down to Standard for just a fraction of a second or a bit longer until the speed has bled off. Then, I just scroll back to Hurry (or Standard, or whatever mode I was in before). It seems this resets my tolerance level for that selection on this road in these conditions and Fluffy stays within my speed comfort zone. For quite a long time.

Mad Max mode has it's uses for me. There's a section of my commute which is right where most people take a light to enter a new road. We've been going 65 or so. The new road is 45 at the start but you wouldn't know it. Fluffy thinks it's 35mph for some reason. There's no sign and we are NOT in a residential area. My CT quickly changes to 45 in about 1/8 mile but to avoid going so slow, I flip on Mad Max mode for that 1/8-mile, and it keeps up.

Correction: I USED to use Mad Max there. My last 3 commute days, Fluffy maintained right around 55 there so I let her go.

Lol bioya.

 

[Fugue]

Speed profiles are not really speed profiles. They are aggression profiles.

Hear me out. It's how your CT behaves. You select: It acts.

I agree with this. Calling them speed profiles is misleading, and people get attached to numbers.

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