Cybertruck Highway Range Test (Dual-Motor AWD) -- Run Until Battery Empty (by Out Of Spec)

[VDR]

That would mean the total weight of the vehicle would be well over 10,000 pounds.

The Hummer EV isn't even 10,000lbs, & it has a 212kwh pack
50kw of additional pack weighs 650lbs (13lbs/kwh).

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[AirPierre]

Summary:
46 degree temperature
70 mph
Run until battery completely empty consuming ~122 kWh
Covered 254 miles at ~2.05 m/kWh efficiency

RE: High Beams. Standard on many cars for low beams to stay on while button/lever is pushed. What you are seeing is the low beams go off when you release the button.

 

[SolarWizard]

M8, I think you have that backwards. I don't know of a single electric provider that doesn't offer cheaper rates to encourage usage outside of peak load times.

There are hundreds of electric companies/ co-ops with flat per kWh costs. Its my job to know this and I am 100% certain my statement is accurate and demand charges for residential use will soon become more common than they are now.

 

[Crissa]

For the nth time:

No one promised 500 miles at 70 mph.

Stop trolling.

-Crissa

 

[SolarWizard]

You forgot oil and filter changes. And the yearly maintenance checks.
Why do you think that you have to change the Cybertruck's wheels more often? Drive it and your comparison the same, the tires should be pretty close.
This will be my fifth EV. EVSEs have already been amortized and If I were a first time buyer, it would be amortized moving forward.

And the number of locations without big supercharger infrastructures is dwindling rapidly. Actually you have to work hard to find one these days.

You will certainly be getting tires much more frequently in a cybertruck than the average half ton truck. Its heavier, torquier and steers with both axles.

 

[REM]

There are hundreds of electric companies/ co-ops with flat per kWh costs. Its my job to know this and I am 100% certain my statement is accurate and demand charges for residential use will soon become more common than they are now.

what database do you use? anything similar to this one?: https://openei.org/wiki/Utility_Rate_Database

And I guess I would need to amend my statement to cover all electricity brokerage, since I don't rightly know the ratio for residential services in the U.S.

 

[SolarWizard]

what database do you use? anything similar to this one?: https://openei.org/wiki/Utility_Rate_Database

And I guess I would need to amend my statement to cover all electricity brokerage, since I don't rightly know the ratio for residential services in the U.S.

I use our own internal database that is comprised of all the various active meter rates in the markets in which my business operates. We keep very close tabs on our competition (utility companies). Another new(er) trick utility companies are doing to prevent sticker shock is flex rates vs neighboring residents consumption.

generic example. John Doe, you used 1400kWh this month x your “rate” of $.165/kWh HOWEVER you used 15% more than your variance comparison, so we have multiplied that rate accordingly and also multiplied your other associated fixed costs, municipal fees etc but the same. Its of course never spelled out that way but it’s exceedingly common.
As more and more people get EVs demand charges will be standardized. Very likely before 2030

 

[REM]

I use our own internal database that is comprised of all the various active meter rates in the markets in which my business operates. We keep very close tabs on our competition (utility companies). Another new(er) trick utility companies are doing to prevent sticker shock is flex rates vs neighboring residents consumption.

generic example. John Doe, you used 1400kWh this month x your “rate” of $.165/kWh HOWEVER you used 15% more than your variance comparison, so we have multiplied that rate accordingly and also multiplied your other associated fixed costs, municipal fees etc but the same. Its of course never spelled out that way but it’s exceedingly common.
As more and more people get EVs demand charges will be standardized. Very likely before 2030

If this report is accurate, it looks like "14% of all US utilities offer a residential TOU rate; roughly half of IOUs offer one".

Which is staggeringly lower than my anecdotal guess has been. I suppose I'm just used to spending far more time in farm country with electric co-ops.

And you are right. It's not going to be long before a complete remodel is in order. Going to be exciting how migro-grids and VTG load sharing is going to play out. If I had money to burn, I would be buying land between major transmission veins and plotting to create solar/battery farms. There is SOOO much money to be made in that right now. Demand is absolutely going to soar; and very soon.

 

[VDR]

For the nth time:

No one promised 500 miles at 70 mph.

Stop trolling.

-Crissa

An EPA 500 would have given a realistic 300-400 though.

 

[Woodrick]

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...en-by-marques-brownlee-mkbhd.9969/post-201830


Which should be more useful than the other anecdotal reports you’ve collected around here, purportedly

useful as it is, it’s still not exactly relevant to a compare of Kyle’s range test

but if you must know, at highway speeds i easily get 2.44mi/kWh, which is better than the EPA hey rating of 2.16mi/kWh

to which you say “but it’s hot” which is true

but it’s also south texas in summer, which is dry - which increases air resistance compared to anywhere I assume Kyle is testing north of here this time of year

but my truck isn’t on 35” ATs at highway speeds


and after several years active on Lightning forum, if we’re comparing anecdotal evidence, people who understand BEV trucks consistently get at or over EPA hwy rated figures for mi/kWh

Thanks you,

And now for the fun part, Tesla uses watts per mile, many others use mi/kWh. If anyone cares, you can take the Tesla number invert it (divide into 1) and multiply by 1000 (Wh -> kWh)

So, over a period of time, in S TX, @cvalue got 2 mi/kWh that's 500 watts per kWh. (for reference the Model Y EPA is about 245 watts/kWh, but these are bigger vehicles)

Kyle got about 250 miles on an about 120 kWh battery or about 480 watts per mile. or about 2.08 mi/kWh

So compared to Kyle's test, he was 2.08 mi/kWh vs your average of 2 and your stated hwy of 2.44

There's definitely temperature and air density to be considered. (I don't quite put air density differences as high on the list as you seem to) But in these two comparisons, the Cybertruck seems to be in the same neighborhood as the Lightning

@cvalue, am I too far off with this conclusion?

Color commentary for those still reading:
And just to add, this is a SINGLE Cybertruck run vs a SINGLE Lightning average, in different conditions, the numbers are expected to be different. This does not say that one is better than the other.

Depending on conditions, the numbers will change. I've seen my Model Y or Model 3 at 999 watts per mile. I've also seen them at -999 watts per mile (creating obnoxious amounts of regen). The condition was going up a 4,000 ft mountain (Smokies) and coming down the same mountain.

300 watts per mile is pretty common for a Model Y or Model 3, the Model X goes up a little, maybe 350 watts per mile. On a standard trip today, my Model Y went from -100 to +600.

 

[cvalue13]

@cvalue, am I too far off with this conclusion?

yes

it’s like you didn’t even read the post

 

[DumpsterFire]

You will certainly be getting tires much more frequently in a cybertruck than the average half ton truck. Its heavier, torquier and steers with both axles.

Truth. I’m on my 3rd set of tires on my 64k mile M3. Apparently I like acceleration…. Hahah

 

[Woodrick]

yes

it’s like you didn’t even read the post

Can you clarify? What did I get wrong?

Did I mess my math up anywhere?

 

[Crissa]

An EPA 500 would have given a realistic 300-400 though.

But that's not what was being compared, tho.

Your math is wrong and you're wasting time charging to 80. And you're looking at last year's charging network, not this year's network.

The Tesla software - or ABRP - can and will tell you the exact speed to take between stops to get there the quickest.

-Crissa

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