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My main point was that backing the truck up so far that the bed fills with water is not the normal way to launch a boat... it's very much the wrong way.
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What!? Never in my life have I seen someone launch a boat and backup so far that their truck bed filled with water. If they that, they were doing it wrong and and

completely submerging their tailpipe significantly. Not a good idea.

Maybe in some rare conditions it would be necessary to back the truck up that deep, but hopefully the person doing it has routed their exhaust up in some manner.

ICE vehicles driving in water deeper than the tailpipe is fairly common on-road (mild flooding) and off-road ( stream/creek fording).

The first concern is the engine air intake NOT the tailpipe.

Besides height of air intakes, maximum wading height is limited by height of the breather tubes for the differentials, transmissions and transfer cases. These might be about the top of your wheel height but you should actually get under your vehicle and verify a) height, b) the breather tubes are connected c) the tubes don't have any cracks in them. Some owners have put longer tubes on them to increase wading capabilities.

Even some standard right off the dealer lot mid-size SUVs (not even full-size) can ford / wade through water of 510mm (20") depth and there are many standard right off the dealer lot models of pickup trucks & jeeps that can handle depths 650mm - 900mm ( 25" - 35" ).

Note: ground clearance & wading depth limits can vary depending on model, model trim level, model year, and market region/country (ie, Asia, Asia-Pacific, North America, Middle East, USA, Mexico, Australia, Philippines, Europe, India, China, Indonesia, Africa, etc). For your vehicle, check the manual & local dealer/importer or the manufacturer.

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Ford Explorer midsize SUV, 225mm (7.9") ground clearance, 510mm wading depth

Ford EcoSport subcompact crossover SUV, 200mm (7.8") ground clearance, 550mm (21.6) wading depth
https://www.drive.com.au/news/ford-ecosport-pricing-specifications/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_EcoSport

Ford Everest / Endeavour midsize SUV, 225mm (7.9") ground clearance, 800mm (31") wading depth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Everest

Toyota Fortuner midsize SUV has a water wading capacity of 700mm (27")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Fortuner

Mitsubishi Montero Sport / Challenger midsize SUV can wade up to 700mm (27")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Pajero_Sport

Nissan Terra / X-Terra midsize SUV 600mm wading depth

Nissan Patrol full-size luxury SUV, 700mm water wading capacity.

Mazda BT-50 compact pickup can wade 800mm wading depth

Ford Ranger compact pickup can wade up to 800mm.

Nissan Navara compact pickup truck can also wade up to 800mm

Toyota Hilux able to wade up to 700mm of water

Toyota Land Cruiser Prado able to wade 700mm of water

Toyota Land Cruiser can wade through water as deep as 700mm

2022 Ram 1500 TRX pickup, 295mm of ground clearance, 812mm water fording depth

2022 Ford F-150 Raptor pickup, 810mm (32") water fording depth
https://www.fordservicecontent.com/...50-Raptor-Card-Version-1_RQ-EN-US_10_2021.pdf


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ICE vehicles driving in water deeper than the tailpipe is fairly common on-road (mild flooding) and off-road ( stream/creek fording).

The first concern is the engine air intake NOT the tailpipe.

Besides height of air intakes, maximum wading height is limited by height of the breather tubes for the differentials, transmissions and transfer cases. These might be about the top of your wheel height but you should actually get under your vehicle and verify a) height, b) the breather tubes are connected c) the tubes don't have any cracks in them. Some owners have put longer tubes on them to increase wading capabilities.

Even some standard right off the dealer lot mid-size SUVs (not even full-size) can ford / wade through water of 510mm (20") depth and there are many standard right off the dealer lot models of pickup trucks & jeeps that can handle depths 650mm - 900mm ( 25" - 35" ).

Note: ground clearance & wading depth limits can vary depending on model, model trim level, model year, and market region/country (ie, Asia, Asia-Pacific, North America, Middle East, USA, Mexico, Australia, Philippines, Europe, India, China, Indonesia, Africa, etc). For your vehicle, check the manual & local dealer/importer or the manufacturer.

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Ford Explorer midsize SUV, 225mm (7.9") ground clearance, 510mm wading depth

Ford EcoSport subcompact crossover SUV, 200mm (7.8") ground clearance, 550mm (21.6) wading depth
https://www.drive.com.au/news/ford-ecosport-pricing-specifications/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_EcoSport

Ford Everest / Endeavour midsize SUV, 225mm (7.9") ground clearance, 800mm (31") wading depth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Everest

Toyota Fortuner midsize SUV has a water wading capacity of 700mm (27")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Fortuner

Mitsubishi Montero Sport / Challenger midsize SUV can wade up to 700mm (27")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Pajero_Sport

Nissan Terra / X-Terra midsize SUV 600mm wading depth

Mazda BT-50 compact pickup can wade 800mm wading depth

Ford Ranger compact pickup can wade up to 800mm.

Nissan Navara compact pickup truck can also wade up to 800mm

Nissan Patrol Royale 700mm water wading capacity.

Toyota Hilux able to wade up to 700mm of water

Toyota Land Cruiser Prado able to wade 700mm of water

Toyota Land Cruiser can wade through water as deep as 700mm

2022 Ram 1500 TRX pickup, 295mm of ground clearance, 812mm water fording depth

2022 Ford F-150 Raptor pickup, 810mm (32") water fording depth
https://www.fordservicecontent.com/...50-Raptor-Card-Version-1_RQ-EN-US_10_2021.pdf


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Why is everyone ignoring the main point? If you launch a boat and fill your truck bed with water you are doing it wrong. Anyone disagree?
 

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Why is everyone ignoring the main point? If you launch a boat and fill your truck bed with water you are doing it wrong. Anyone disagree?
Getting some water in bed (especially back of bed), might depend on the boat ramp's angle/slope, trailer, boat, hitch height, truck bed height above ground level.

A compact or mid-size pickup with lower ground clearance?

Ford Ranger compact pickup with max 800mm wading depth which is higher than many full-size pickups.
 

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Getting some water in bed (especially back of bed), might depend on the boat ramp's angle/slope, trailer, boat, hitch height, truck bed height above ground level.

A compact or mid-size pickup with lower ground clearance?

Ford Ranger compact pickup with max 800mm wading depth which is higher than many full-size pickups.
Is 900+ lbs "some water", because that is the context we are talking about here.
This conversation is stupid.

Anyone who fills their truck bed with water, while launching their boat, has clearly made a pretty big mistake and can expect to be featured on a youtube fails video compilation even if the truck makes it out.
 


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Is 900+ lbs "some water", because that is the context we are talking about here.
This conversation is stupid.

Anyone who fills their truck bed with water, while launching their boat, has clearly made a pretty big mistake and can expect to be featured on a youtube fails video compilation even if the truck makes it out.
Exactly, you must keep water out of the bed at all costs... as demonstrated by this boat launching expert…

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Interestingly, floatation doesn’t exactly happen in that manner. Its a fallacy to consider Cybertrucks waterproof as floatation. Yes, float exists but in the boat launch scenario Cybertruck owners can be rest assured that the ass-end of their truck isn’t going to rise, lose rear tire contact and float the rest of the vehicle away - with you in it.

Water weight, 62#/cu ft, can and does fill the truckbed. SWAG CT bed is 15 cu ft that 930lbs is traction minus a marginal floatation uplift value. So there is more weight contributing to downforce than is responsible for uplifting floatation. NBD
If the bed is intended to be full of water and still waterproof, is there any hope that midgate is a thing? I can't imagine a sliding gate that is waterproof.
 

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If the bed is intended to be full of water and still waterproof, is there any hope that midgate is a thing? I can't imagine a sliding gate that is waterproof.
The property of keeping water from coming into a space quickly is related to, but not exactly the same, as keeping water inside a space.

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There are a line of buoys on each side of the area they were in that might indicate it might be an official area for launching.
Yes, but tidal areas change the surface of the beach and that can create steep or soft spots which will reduce traction and trap vehicles. Which is what happened there.

I grew up onna beach, so maybe I'm a teensy more aware of these things, but...

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Some tips for using Boat Ramps

If have 4WD use it! Use 4WD low setting.

Use a wheel chock for front driver tire. Put a string/rope on chock so you can pull chock out while sitting in drivers seat. After driving forward 3-4 feet pull string/rope to remove choke.

Make sure to put vehicle in park. Warning: Might be useless if on slippery surface.
Make sure apply parking brake. Warning: Might be useless if on slippery surface.

If have rear axle 2WD, when backing up, DO NOT back rear wheels into water or into slippery algae, mud, etc that is on ramp.

4WD or front 2WD, DO NOT back front wheels into water or into slippery algae, mud, etc that is on ramp.

If possible use 2nd gear to drive forward to try avoid excess wheel spin.


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